| Posted: 26 Apr 2010 15:51 |
|
|
|
Registered User
Currently Offline
|
Posts: 757
Join Date: Aug 2006
|
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=17483
This interview or news item asked if Nick Fury is going to be in the Cap movie? And I continue to say or plead not to put Fury and his commandoes in the Cap movie, maybe as a cameo, but no Jackson's Fury. This will just distract or take the focus away from Cap and his origin (Probably Jackson would upstage Evans or the audience will wonder how Fury never ages and the audience should be following Cap). Already the Invaders are set to pop up in this movie, Wheadon's rewriting the script to allign it to the Avengers, so there's these little bits that can diverge away from the main character.
I did like that 'tag', a scene after the ending credits like in Iron Man 1. So, drop the 'bookends' and put a 'tag' at the ending of the Cap movie (like Jackson's Fury closing the file on Cap after reading it).
|
| Posted: 26 Apr 2010 21:03 |
|
|
|
Registered User
Currently Offline
|
Posts: 457
Join Date: Oct 2008
|
 I say to you
have Fury, have him be Jackson. Ultimates Fury is Black, there is a heavy ultimates influence on all the Marvel Movies. Not a problem.
I know, I know, it's not exactly like the comic book.
Big deal, it's how the character would be written today, and it's how the character should be written today.
Besides it's Samual L. Jackson (the L stands for Mother Lovin')!
|
| Posted: 27 Apr 2010 15:04 |
|
|
Registered User
Currently Offline
|
Posts: 322
Join Date: Jun 2007
|
|
Thanks for the heads up about S.J.'s Nick Fury. I'll be sure not to see Iron Man 2 when it comes out. I was pretty ticked already to see the warped version of Whiplash, but this really made my mind up. Maybe I'll watch it when it hits on demand.
|
| Posted: 27 Apr 2010 17:12 |
|
|
Registered User
Currently Offline
|
Posts: 135
Join Date: Jun 2008
|
I am definately catching the 7:00PM Ironman on Friday. I don't care what all you whiners out there are saying about it. It will rock for sure.
__________________"--When the mob and the Press and the whole WORLD tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth and tell the whole world 'No you move'."
|
| Posted: 28 Apr 2010 02:55 |
|
|
|
Registered User
Currently Offline
|
Posts: 457
Join Date: Oct 2008
|
I really don't get where the anti-SLJ as Fury vibe comes from.
It's not like ultimates Fury didn't come before SLJ Fury. It's not like they hadn't created this character and idea in the book first.
Now, yes, it's not 616 Marvel, but no movie is ever going to be 616 Marvel.
It's 90210 Marvel, it's a differnt universe, which crosses some aspects of Ultimates and some aspects of 616 and some aspects which are completely unique to this world.
|
| Posted: 28 Apr 2010 03:30 |
|
|
|
Registered User
Currently Offline
|
Posts: 135
Join Date: Jun 2008
|
Agreed, there will never be a true translation of the 616, nor do i wish there be. "Lite" versions allow for the cropping of additional characters in film that would take years of complicated explanations to get "right".
__________________"--When the mob and the Press and the whole WORLD tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth and tell the whole world 'No you move'."
|
| Posted: 28 Apr 2010 21:33 |
|
|
|
Registered User
Currently Offline
|
Posts: 757
Join Date: Aug 2006
|
1 really don't get where the anti-SLJ as Fury vibe comes from.
It happens, after awhile, after the dust settles in, we begin to think and rethink the Sam L Jackson playing Fury, ... same thing happened after David Hasselhoff played Fury in that Fox TV movie (Which I still think was good enough for a weekly TV series while others trashed it). Imagine if Bruce Willis took that role???
This is the media, Jackson put himself out there and he should take criticisms along with the adolations, and I'm certain he can take it (Snakes on a plane). If we can ridicule the Hoff with the eye patch, why not Yoda's talking buddy with an eye patch?
I'm just saying that with the Invaders, hints to the Avengers and Jackson in the Cap movie, might and can distract and take away from the main character, Captain America, or show the weaknesses of the Cap character on the big screen. In the comics in the 60s, Lee, Kirby and Steranko kept Fury and Cap apart for a long while, to establish their place, image and universe, ... and made it an event (In Shield's adventures in Strange Tales comics) when they met.
I want the Cap movie to establish Cap as a great action hero, worthy for 3 or more movies, and what I read, that's what the powers-that-be are doing. IM, Hulk, IM2, Thor, Cap and then Avengers.
|
| Posted: 29 Apr 2010 03:29 |
|
|
|
Registered User
Currently Offline
|
Posts: 322
Join Date: Jun 2007
|
O.K, I'll say it one more time. I absolutely have nothing against Samuel L. Jackson. I really enjoy him in nearly every film he puts out. A brilliant actor. Simple fact: long before there were the Ultimates there was the original Marvel Universe. I grew up during the 1960's (yeah I'm that old) and Fury had brown hair and an eye patch (well once he got the Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. SERIES). I guess this is just a matter of taste. I don't like my characters or their past rewritten. How would it have gone over if they had changed Superman or Spider-Mans costumes or instead of getting Chris Reeve put Nicholas Cage in the role. Thats my only problem with the whole SLJ thing.Maybe if they threw some hair on him and gave him a clean shave I could go with it. His original design for the Ultimates was like that anyway until Marvel or Bryan Hitch asked Jackson's permission to use his image.
I do agree with Vincent I also liked the Hasselhoff Fury.
|
| Posted: 29 Apr 2010 15:50 |
|
|
Registered User
Currently Offline
|
Posts: 72
Join Date: Apr 2010
|
I enjoyed Hasselhoff's Fury as well! It was entertaining.
|
| Posted: 29 Apr 2010 16:20 |
|
|
Registered User
Currently Offline
|
Posts: 370
Join Date: Jul 2008
|
|
Kurt Russell should have been Nick Fury. Oh well...I don't like the idea of Samuel L. Jackson as Fury. He won't be like the orginal Fury at all.
|
| Posted: 29 Apr 2010 16:50 |
|
|
|
Registered User
Currently Offline
|
Posts: 135
Join Date: Jun 2008
|
Kurt Russell would have been the most badass Nick Fury PERIOD!
__________________"--When the mob and the Press and the whole WORLD tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth and tell the whole world 'No you move'."
|
| Posted: 29 Apr 2010 20:04 |
|
|
Registered User
|
Posts: 859
Join Date: Sep 2007
|
Yes Kurt Russell would be a bad ass nick fury for sure! 
As for SLJ playing Fury, I got no problem with it.
You guys gotta keep an open mind about this stuff or you won't enjoy these awesome movies coming out.
People bitched about the little changes in Spider-Man during the movie (shooting web from his actual wrist and NOT web shooters).
People complained about Transformers, and how it was NOT like the original G1 stuff from the cartoon and comics. Names were the same but Bumblebee was a camaro? Prime is a Peterbuilt truck? Megatron is a jet!?!? WTF!??!?
I could go on & on about how Hollywood butchers the original stories to make it appeal to a wider audience or so they say.
In the end though, I sat back and enjoyed the movies for what they were.
If I sat there concerned about every little detail that they changed because it wasn't exactly like the comic book.... then I would be a complete mess in my head lol!
Nah, I'm just glad they are making these movies as I have been wanting too see big budget comic movies for as long as I can remember. I'm just glad they are making them!
So yeah if they have a black Nick Fury, I'm cool with it.
I'll repreat myself again, keep an open mind about this stuff. Clear your heads and go to see Captain America on opening day and enjoy it for what it is.
I am planing to be there on opening day to see it, no matter who they had playing the lead role as Cap.
|
| Posted: 30 Apr 2010 03:35 Last Edited By: Pole805 |
|
|
Registered User
|
Posts: 1825
Join Date: May 2007
|
Samuel L. Jackson would knock us on our ASSES, showing us that he can be a Fury and was born to be one.
Samuel is FURY.
|
| Posted: 30 Apr 2010 06:32 |
|
|
|
Registered User
Currently Offline
|
Posts: 370
Join Date: Jul 2008
|
|
Quote:
Samuel is FURY.
Samuel is the Ultimate Fury. Not the real Fury, Pole.
|
| Posted: 30 Apr 2010 14:11 |
|
|
|
Registered User
Currently Offline
|
Posts: 322
Join Date: Jun 2007
|
|
I had forgotten about Kurt Russel. Your right he would be a kick-ass Nick Fury. I've been wondering if he is retired now. Its been a few years since I've seen him do any movies.
|
| Posted: 30 Apr 2010 15:40 |
|
|
|
Registered User
Currently Offline
|
Posts: 757
Join Date: Aug 2006
|
Anyone following the Ultimate books? The Ultimate Fury was in the WW2 and had an alternate Super Soldier serum that kept him young, making Fury that Truth hero (And Granddaddy to the new Patriot). Plus he met a scientist who confessed that the experiments to create super soldiers lead to creating mutants. I feel that these themes will overwhelm the Rocketeer meet Raiders meet Saving Private Ryan story line.
After reading that new Ultimate Avengers and the Ultimate Red Skull, who just like the Marvel's Skull, never was raised by parents, became a social pariah, sadistic, psycotic, etc. Only difference was that he wanted the cube to rewrite his childhood with parents. Just thinking, maybe he isn't Ultimate Cap's boy, in Ultimate Origin, Gail was dating other boys, sooo, ...
|
| Posted: 30 Apr 2010 21:28 |
|
|
|
Registered User
Currently Offline
|
Posts: 135
Join Date: Jun 2008
|
Marvel Studios movies are generally taking mild updates from Ultimates universe and a heavy dose of 616 recon ideas. They will most likely use ideas held within the last several years to use, since they don't wish to rumage through years of comics to make an enjoyable movie.
Just look at the new movie Thor, his armor was inspired by Coipel's latest version of Thor and I think it looks awesome. The MCU (Marvel Cinematic Universe) will probably use the Captain America: Reborn look. I could be wrong, but it wouldn't be a bad educated guess.
__________________"--When the mob and the Press and the whole WORLD tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth and tell the whole world 'No you move'."
|
| Posted: 01 May 2010 13:50 |
|
|
|
Registered User
Currently Offline
|
Posts: 322
Join Date: Jun 2007
|
|
Since the powers that be doing the Cap movie seem set on sticking with the Ultimates version of Iron Man, Nick Fury and probably Cap does that mean we won't get a WWII version of the Red Skull? After all in Ultimates universe he is Steve Rogers Son and set in modern times only. Imagine the confusion for comics fans with the two universes tangled up. I'm getting to like the 1990 Cap movie more and more.
|
| Posted: 08 May 2010 15:56 |
|
|
|
Registered User
Currently Offline
|
Posts: 370
Join Date: Jul 2008
|
|
I never read the ultimates, but the Red Skull is Steve's son??? That's messed up. I'm glad I never read the Ultimates now. They better not screw with the original story too much. I can deal with the little things, but they shouldn't change anything too important. I've been looking forward to this movie for too long now to be disappointed.
|
| Posted: 09 May 2010 14:18 |
|
|
|
Registered User
Currently Offline
|
Posts: 322
Join Date: Jun 2007
|
|
Skull is Steve's son. That was in the most recent Ultimates storyline. For everyone out there, you see I do read Ultimates even though I dispise a lot of the characterizations they do, Such as this Red Skull, Fury and Hawkeye. I still say its not really creative since all they've done is to take established characters and tweek and twist them their own way and sit back and say "look what I did". I only read the Ultimates as to enjoy Cap. Thank god they didn't change him too much. And by the way, I love Alex Ross's work but hated his Cap in Earth X.
|
| Posted: 09 May 2010 16:11 |
|
|
|
Registered User
Currently Offline
|
Posts: 370
Join Date: Jul 2008
|
|
Hawkeye? That's my second favorite character. What did they do to him?
|
|
|
