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From what I understand and from various "reliable sources" it is believed that Chris Pine and Marvel are in final talks and he all but has the Cap role. Another source is saying he signed with Paramount and Marvel for a 2 picture deal. This would be Captain America: The First Avenger and The Avengers movie.
I know his name was leaked last week, but now it sounds like it's all just a matter of announcing him for the role.
For those who don't know who he is, he played Captain Kirk in the Star Trek reboot movie. A movie I really enjoyed and liked his performance in.
I saw it and I had never heard of him before and I said to myself: "He'd make a good Cap at least looks-wise." If the strong rumors are true, it looks like that might be the case. I'd be happy with him in the role, although I would have liked to have seen our own Wade Harlan get it. oh well.
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The director said they were looking at unknowns but I really hope this rumor is true. Pine is my TOP choice. Young enough. Leadership presence. Likable. Looks the part (although he could buff up a little).
I heard Pine was being looked at for a series of Tom Clancy movies as a young Jack Ryan not unlike what Affleck did.
I expect we'll get an announcement before the end of the month.
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I heard a debunk on this rumor. He's on for Star Trek 2 and the Jack Ryan franchise. That's not to say he couldn't fit in the other movies, since work on them typically is only a month or so for each film.
But Johnston said an "unknown" or so he hoped. But that might only have been said to help in negotiations with Pine. If he thought he'd lose the part, he might come down in demands.
I think he could make a pretty decent Cap.
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| Posted: 16 Feb 2010 04:10 |
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Well only time will tell who it is really going to be.
They said it would be an unknown so I'm still pulling for Wade Harlan! 
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| Posted: 16 Feb 2010 04:38 |
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SuperAmerica, yes I heard the same thing not too long after I posted. Unless something is credible, I guess we'll have to wait. He would have been a good choice. I'm still pulling for Wade Harlan.
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| Posted: 16 Feb 2010 05:05 |
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It seems like a lot of names get tossed around in a flurry right before the casting gets finalized. I seem to recall there were a lot of rumors about who would play Thor and many were surprised by the actor who got picked.
Same will happen here. Who knows, it could be Wade! Personally, that might inspire some hope that the movie is done right since he's obviously a fan of the icon.
In any event, we should know the answer in the next two weeks. I doubt they'd cast him and hold off on the news for too long.
I'm also hoping we get some pictures of the costumes and sets. Maybe even a teaser by Comic Con.
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Chris Pine is a fine actor, but compared to the other pretty boys that are up for the role, I'm not sure he has the All-American look down as nailed down as the others. Given a choice, I'll always take the better actor. They can fake height and muscles ... but you can't fake good acting!
We'll see ...
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Given a choice, I'll always take the better actor. They can fake height and muscles ... but you can't fake good acting!
I agree 100%.
A good actor can convince you he's that person even if he doesn't exactly look the part.
Robert Downey Jr. for example. I thought it was ridiculous when they announced him for Tony Stark. Now I can't see anybody else ever doing it. He was perfect.
One of my best friend's say his buddy from IL has gone for a second reading. He's got the looks and build that he could pull it off and he is definitively an unknown. He was supposed to have heard at the end of last week if he was going to go for a reading in front of the director.
I've not heard from my buddy so I don't know what's up...he might not have gotten it.
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| Posted: 16 Feb 2010 19:23 |
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I was just thinking about this the other day.
They keep saying that Cap will be a song and dance man in the USO tour he eventually escapes from.
I wonder if they are taking that into account in the casting. If the actor in quesiton can sing and dance?
Something to think about, oh and before any starts getting in on the song and dance qualification please remember that hugh Jackman (who is just great as wolverine) is also a song and dance man.
Try singing and dancing at the same time, trust me all those guys on broadway are potential super soldiers.
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Yea, when I heard about the song and dance man routine, my only reaction was: 
Once again, I hope I'm wrong about all my reservations about this movie.......
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| Posted: 16 Feb 2010 23:08 |
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Come on they had to work in the old Captain America Theme Song somewhere (they did it with Iron Man and the Incredible Hulk).
Anyway, I get the feeling that the Show Tunes bit will not be a big part of the film, just enough to show you exactly why he's trading it in for a slog through the mud behind enemy lines.
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Chris Pine rumor is FALSE. Pine isn't even trying out, I read it at comicbookmovie.com
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You know I never thought the Chris Pine rumor was credible but Ryan McPartlin who has been rumored as a front runner for Cap was at the Wolfman movie premiere. What do you think about that? Out of all the candidates announced or rumored I actually like McPartlin. Do you think that him being the only rumored actor for Cap present at Joe Johnston's latest movie is a coincidence? 
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He looks fine, but they all do. I will say this, the guys been working a lot for such a short career so far, that speaks well of his skills and professionalism.
I would wager that if there is a short list everyone on the short list would likely get invited (so as not to tip off who the front runner was) but that doesn't mean they all showed (since some might have felt it more strategic to show they were too busy).
I'm sure we'll get an answer soon enough.
I'm more intersted in the plot at this point. I know they'll get a good athletic actor for the part, I want to make sure they put good words in his mouth.
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I think the USO thing will work. I hope they go with the Ultimates WWII costume and bring him out on stage for a brief routine with some showgirls that do most of the singing/dancing. From there, it should be him putting on a display of acrobatics and incredible feats of strength and shield boomeranging. The crowd of soldiers is apathetic, maybe they even boo. He hates it. He's crushed, as he'd rather slog it out on the battle field. In time, the crowds come to respect and love him as he starts to speak his true feelings to the soldiers. Then he goes AWOL to save ... none other than a young Nick Fury with two good eyeballs. He covers up the suit with battle fatigues, then they start to tear away and tatter to reveal the cap uniform underneath. He "realizes the value of being a symbol" and re-creates the uniform. The rest is history.
I think that'd be pretty cool.
My only reservation is with the inclusion of the Invaders. I hate the Namor character. The Human Torch and Toro could be really confusing to people that have seen the Fan 4 movies. Captain Britain is OK, I guess, but I don't see how any additional super characters add value to the story of the man that is Steve Rogers. The Batman movies did not need Robin. I say the Cap movies do not need Bucky ... or the Invaders. The Wolverine movie sucked because of all the extra characters, IMO.
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I do hope they stick with the classic look but I do like the idea of rescueing a young Nick Fury. He'd have to be recast for the role as in WWII they did not have an African American Sergeant commanding a majority Caucasian squad, the Howling Commandoes.
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I forgot to add that Bucky IS an integral part of the story as he was a big part of the whole Zemo and Drone Plane incident that got Cap put into the ice. Also he was historically present from Issue #1 in 1940 whereas Batman had a whole year as a solo act before Bob Kane incorporated the Boy Wonder, Robin.
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Actually, with Regard to the howlers, as has been ponted out, since the squad was integrated at the start of world war II is was already either and annomolly or a notable change between the MU and our Universe.
That being said, since the Howlers are an international group, there is no reason that it has to follow the standard procedures, nor that Nick Fury has to be inthe U.S. army. He could easily have been a Sargent in the Integrated Canadian Army at the time, and could easily have been put in charge of this special forces team, specifically because he was an american who joined up early in Canada.
The Canadian Armed forces were actually a pretty tough group (still are) and did a great deal of Britan's Heavy lifting during the War for Europe.
There are lots of ways to work a black nick fury into the story, because let's face it, it is a story, one that is already seperate from our actual history.
If they go with the ultimate Nick Fury origin then he's the victim of a later Super Soldier Program, which personally I would rather not see as part of the Cap Mythos in this film.
All that said, they could also work in Nick Fury (Samuel L Jackson) but not the Howlers somewhere with the Invaders.
There are tons of options, and as we already know the story will be its own (just as X-Men was it's own, and Spiderman was it's own and the Dark Knight was it's own) so the few liberties they take outside of the source material is fine by me.
I get the feeling they are going to mix the origins a bit between ultimate and real Nick Fury, with him being captured by the Nazis (the soldier Cap has to go Awol to Save) and is given a version of the super soldier serum (as opposed to the infinity formula) as Cap breaks in and saves him, just in time to try and stop a missle headed for the whitehouse.
I would love to see Bucky, but much like Robin, I think it just winds up being too much for the film. Granted they could have skipped the Invaders, but given that the whole thing is supposed to be tied to the Avengers i think they needed to show cap Leading other Superhores into battle.
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Maybe 'Nick Fury' is a code name adopted by whomever takes the job as head of Shield. Makes it look like Fury has been running Shield for decades.
Forgotten that Marvel's Fury had been taking the 'Infinity' serum that kept him young (Ultimate Fury switched that thing for the SSS version).
Anyone like the Super Soldier serum spreading around? I like Cap to be the only one, but some knock-offs here and there like the 50s Cap to have an evil-twin story. No Captain America Corp.
Knock-offs:
Master Man and Warrior Woman (Nazi's version of SSS--and they were also frozen for decades, but blown up with the new Master man, John Byrne's Namor the Sub Mariner book)
Truth (Who is retired, but has a grandson, the Patriot, running around--may have or not have the SSS running through his body)
Patricide (That Dan Jurgen's Cap's evil twin who was an Army delinquint that drank an earlier version of the SSS, frozen for decades and revived by AIM)
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Yeah, I guess my 2 main girpes is that I grew up in the late 50's early 60's and am set in my ways for the classic characters. I have bought the Ultimates books to try reading them but give me my Nick Fury as he was created by Lee and Kirby. Maybe use Sam Jackson for the Character Luke Cage or maybe even The Falcon.
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Cap can still be the only one that succesfully takes SSS. Fury can simply stick to the cannon and take the infinity serum to keep him young.
Bucky just seems so ... optional in all of this. I really don't think he's essential. Cap can still fall off of a drone plane or a missile without Bucky.
Anyway, we'll see what comes of it. I hope an actor is selected within the next 8 days.
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As far as multiple super soldiers running, it's only logical. If after we used the bomb in WWII if we had somehow lost the knowledge, don't you think the U.S. government (and every other government in the world) would be working tirelessly to try an recreate it?
There was something good in Captain America the Chosen which suggested that it wasn't Cap's biology that allowed the serum to work the way it did without deliterious effects on him, but his psychology. In otherwords it wasn't that the serum made other men go insane, it's that Steve had the discipline to handle the serum and not let the power corrupt him.
Any way, if you get Nick Fury in the 40's it is going to be Sam Jackson, that's the end of the story. They are not going to stick some white guy in the roll now, especially not with Sam Jackson already signed on for the job.
So you have Nick as either a later Super Soldier, or you have him with the infinity formula. It doesn't matter which, he will be played by Samuel L. Jackson.
It's just too late to switch him out without a great deal of controversy.
So William Burnsides, Jack Monroe, Protocyde, the Master Men, Warrior Woman, etc. are all very logical. And of course, what John Walker received from the Power Broker was itself just an ampped up version of the original super soldier serum.
It should be noted that even when facing actual super humans like Walker it is invariably Cap's discipline that allows him to carry the day even when physically he is outmatched.
I think the addition of the Invaders and perhaps Fury (as the next model of Super Soldiers off the assembly line) is to show that Cap is still the better soldier, and show why he is the natural leader of super humans even though he himself is just a top level human.
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Hi guys, I have been reading the stress filled postings concerning the casting, the Invaders, Cap the USO song and dance man (which makes me sick to my stomach when I think about it), his uniform and so on. I think it's time to sit back, crack open a cold one and not give ourselves peptic ulcers.
No matter what we say or how we feel, it has been shown in past superhero movies, both Marvel and DC, that the people in charge don't give a fat rat's ass about us. The Holly-weird hotshots that get their hands on the characters that we all love and have grown up with, don't care about the fans. How many of them, directors, writers and producers, have stated that they were not fans of comics or are not familiar with the characters they are going to put on the big screen? Plus even those who are fans went ahead and put their own spins on the characters. Spider-man shooting organic webs out of his wrists, Superman knocking-up Lois then taking off for five years (sounds like some guys I know), Victor Von/Dr. Doom being exposed to cosmic rays and turning into some half-assed robot...etc.
I don't think we will see Bucky in this movie. I pray I'm wrong. Bucky has been part of the Cap story line since the begining, all the way through to today. Going back to the Silver Age when Cap was thawed out, many of the Lee/Kirby story lines revolved around Cap's guilt over Bucky's death. Like I said, I pray I'm wrong, but I think Johnston will over look this aspect in the movie. And, there is not a damn thing we can do about it. The bottom line is that they know that no matter what crap they throw up on the silver screen, we will pay to go see it and further down the road, we will buy the dvd for our collections.
So I think we should just sit back, not stress out, and pray that Thor, Cap and the Avengers will turn out the way we hope.
Like it or not, what we WILL see is what we WILL get.
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They have already confirmed that Bucky will be in the movie.
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I've been reading that some anonymous source is saying the choice for Captain America is set and that the actor is a star from NBC, but isn't McPartlin, Buckley and one other.
Just out of curiosity, I went to NBC and scanned the shows. One pops out at me, Justin Bruening, the star for the new Knight Rider. His role in that, from the pilot I watched, was a former Marine and he came off rather convincing. Plus, he's a virtual unknown and hasn't been mentioned in speculation, even.
I'm wondering if it could be him--he also fits the age range.
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As long as it isn't Jay Leno!! 
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I don't want to start an argument, but who are "THEY"? Some "Holly-weird" talking heads that are told to go out and throw crap against a wall and see what sticks?
Until we see some official press releases from real responsible sources, I can't put much faith in what is leaked from here or there. Does last week's Chris Pine nonsense come to mind?
As we all know things change day in and day out with scripts and re-writes because some clueless nobody, who could care less about our hero, has a brain fart of an idea (more crap against the wall). It's these ideas that could change the entire complexion of the movie or what we as fans would like and hope to see.
We just will not know until we see some real evidence of what is going on. We can't get sucked in by bs from fan boy blogs or some superhero movie "we got the scoop" web site.
We just have to keep our fingers crossed.
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You're telling me Philly. Some "Superheromovie" website pratically threw me under the bus by saying that I had auditioned for Captain America, when I didn't. Of course I would absolutely love to, but saying I did when I didn't sure as hell wouldn't get me on anybody's good side. They assumed I had by adding up my Twitter postings and jumping to conclusions when in fact I only stated that I wanted to audition and that I would look forward to meeting the powers that be during the auditioning process. It's called being positive, but I guess to them it's being positive that I read for the role, which I'm finally talking about that I DID NOT. I figured I'd let it out now that 'some superhero' website deleted the article after I contacted them multiple times to do so. I just hope they are not the reason why I haven't been called in. I'm trying my best to hang in there though. I have a strong feeling that if they met me in person they'd like me. How could they know if they cast the right person without even meeting me, or other actors that have a strong affinity for CAP like I do?
I will say that I've tried just about everything in the book (and a few things that aren't  ) to get their attention, but still no love from Marvel!
You never know though, Hugh Jackman was a last minute replacement for Wolverine. Stranger things have happened.
Well, that's the word from me so far, in case you guy's were wondering.
Thanks for the support up to this point! You guys rock.
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Fitting with the NBC rumor but a different actor... John Krasinski of THE OFFICE...
http://www.latinoreview.com/news/the-captain-america-leading-man- ...
Personally, I LOVE The Office but Krasinski just doesn't work for me. Just a different type of personality than Cap.
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Yeah all these John Krasinski rumors popping up are crazy!
"Captain! The Red Skull has unleashed a giant robot!" *awkward camera glance*
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