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Posted: 05 Jan 2010 05:16 Last Edited By: Pole805
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You guys are the experts...this is a very cool picutre of the Red Skull, I want to know what issue this is from...

Posted: 05 Jan 2010 06:29 Last Edited By: PS Schmucker
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That's the Ultimate Red Skull from Ultimate Comics: Avengers.

Posted: 05 Jan 2010 11:39
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It's also a variant cover! __________________ http://comicartfans.com/GalleryDetail.asp?GCat=11328

Posted: 05 Jan 2010 12:40
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Posted: 05 Jan 2010 22:47
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Geez, you guys know everything...THANKS!

Posted: 01 Feb 2010 06:15
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Happy almost Monday, I just got to read Cap 602 and I was a little disappointed. Did you see who the villains’ were? Middle American. Did you see those evil protestors? they were demanding lower taxes, how dare they! who do they think they are protesting giving the government their money! Do you see who the obvious instigators’ are? It’s those tea baggers, those gun totting, bible clinging crazies! Did you see who is joining the nutty (and they truly are ) Militia crowd, why its the returning veterans who are all crazy. Well we now know it's middle America we need to watch out for and not those "right minded" (or is it left?) people that gives US citizens rights to foreign terrorist. Makes you wonder?

Posted: 01 Feb 2010 17:17
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I think you might be reading a bit too much into it. It isn't the protesters who are the threat, it's the radical groups that would exploit the anger and fear of those groups to bring about a destabilization of the Union. The fact is dissaffected vets are a prime breeding grounds for these kinds of groups, just as they always have been. There are many people who would exploit misplaced anger and even righteous indignation for their own purposes. For the counter example, check out the NOMAD series and the Secret Empire's use of social engineering and promises of hope and change to bring about a riot at a New York City highschool. The issue isn't "would angry midwesterners join the red skull's army" the issue is "would the red skull seek to recruit angry midwesterners".

Posted: 02 Feb 2010 00:09
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I agree with Matches. I don't think it's middle America. It's the people who are willing to exploit the fears & concerns that many people have who are the bad guys. It's a lot like when Mike Farrel joined the Watchdogs. He with what they were saying, but didn't like what they did. He just go in too deep. (See Cap Vol 3 No 385-386). I think it's a clever bit of writing. Are only the violent ones the bad guys? Are people who support the violent ones bad guys? Are people who have the same concerns who support the ones who support the bad guys, the bad guys?

Posted: 02 Feb 2010 07:29
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All Concerned, I can accept, not agree with, but accept most of what you are saying but I cannot agree with the statement "The fact is disaffected vets are a prime breeding grounds for these kinds of groups, just as they always have been" Why are vets a prime breeding ground? Because they served the government, because they know how to organize, or work in a group, or kill a person? If this is the case then civilians have to be "more" of a prime group because most of the militia is made up of non-vets. Vets may be prime to recruit because he or she is just that; a trained person, someone who has worked in a group, understand tactics, and weapons etc. This is not to say civilians cannot do or learn this but just that vets already have this experience. I spent 28 plus years in the US Army and, in my opinion, the majority, would find "taking up arms' against our government very distasteful. They may, as we all do at some point, disagree with something that is going on but all those that enlisted or are commissioned swear to uphold and defend the Constitution (literally), and those that are serving or have served (and probably most of us) take that commitment seriously. But alas, as mentioned, I may be taking this story to seriously. Thanks for listening

Posted: 02 Feb 2010 16:32
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Vets are a prime breeding ground because they often return with trauma which is ignored by society and the government. There are often feelings of being forgotten and feelings of being betrayed by their government among some vets. This is why I said disaffected vets, not just vets. Most vets come back from their tours solid and still committed to their country, some however do not. These men and women then become prime targets for various groups that would exploit their anger at the state. Simply put, if you fight for your country, but then feel your country has abandoned you, it can lead to a great deal of bad feelings. People who have had trouble navigating the veterans adminsitration (especially for psychological trauma which the VA is still not up to speed in diagnosing and treating) tend to have these feelings exacerbated. You add to that various social pressures ranging from those that won't hire "a PTS case" to those that tell them they are war criminals and it's easy to see how some, especially if they return with no solid support structure, or to find that their job is nolonger there because their factory or company has gone out of business, might become angry at a system they see as helping others who are undeserving, while stepping on someone who fought for their country. This is not the case for all vets, and is likely only the case for a small minority, but for that minority, being pulled into various malitia or hate groups is a real possibility.

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