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When it comes to to Cap in comics, personally who are your favorite creators? (writers/artists)
What do you consider to be the very best of Cap?
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| Posted: 09 Dec 2009 22:21 |
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My favorite time period for Cap comics was the early 80's. Seemed to have it all just right back then. The patriotism, the storylines, the art. It all worked great for me.
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Stan Lee and Jack Kirby in the 1960s for the action.
Sal Buscema and Steve Englehardt's Secret Empire/Nomad run in the 1970s for mirroring America.
Roger Stern and John Byrne's short run from 1980/81. Maybe the pinnacle for me.
J.M. DeMatteis and Mike Zeck's 80s run was under appreciated.
Early Gruenwald in the late 80s with the John Walker/The Captain saga.
Mark Waid and Ron Garney's run in the 1990s although it probably isn't as good as I remember at the time but but it looked and felt better than it was after coming after Cap Wolf/Iron Cap and Liefeld runs.
And Brubaker's Cap run.
I also admit to a strong liking to Kirby's mid-70s return. Funky but fun!
In terms of favorite stories and moments, two from The Avengers....
"Death be Not Proud" from AVENGERS #57 where Cap and the Avengers go back to 1945 and try to save Bucky.
The end of the Masters of Evil sacking the Avengers mansion in the mid-1980s and Cap sheds a tear for the only picture of his mother than he has that has been ripped in half.
In terms of the regular book, Cap chopping off Baron Blood's head.
Cap for President? from #250.
Cap vs. Machinesmith when the angle of his shield ricochets form a star (subtle but a fun touch)
#200 with the finale of the Mad Bomb.
And maybe even the Ultimate Cap pointing at his forehead explaining that the "A" doesn't stand for France when asked to surrender. Funny.
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I gotta say I loved the Grunwald John Walker/The Captain run also.
I really like the current series with Brubaker and Bucky CAP, although I am little behind, but I'm enjoying it a lot. Bucky CAP is pretty cool to read about.
I'll go back into my CAP DVD ROM files and reread some the story arcs that people are posting on here.
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| Posted: 11 Dec 2009 01:34 |
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gotta go with the semi-classic issues 193-200 --- they were great patriotic fun in the Kirby style -- the rest of the return run was fun too, especially when he introduced Arnim Zola and brought back the Red Skull.
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| Posted: 11 Dec 2009 02:34 |
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Stern/Byrn was the best. I liked Stern's run on the Avengers, too. I wish he were able to write the Cap script, or at least a story (the guy is great).
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Some Outside of the Cap books favorites:
What If #5, Vol 1, What if Captain America had not dissappeared from WW2.
Punisher and Captain America, Blood and Guts. A soldier from Viet Nam teamed up with a soldier from WW2.
The Adventures of Captain America, Nicienza and Maguire retelling of the Cap origin to celebrate Cap's 50th anniversary.
Iron Fist first volume, cover had IF pounding on Cap's shield: Iron Fist was forced to break into the Avengers mansion and Cap was on duty. The fun of that book was Cap acting like Terminator, countering everything Iron Fist threw at him, and Cap's dishing IF on everything he did. I think there's an Iron Fist Essential out there.
There's a Marvel Fanfare Cap story by Frank Millar that had Cap fight some arsonists.
Sorry that I can't remember numbers.
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| Posted: 11 Dec 2009 07:59 |
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The Marvel Fanfare story is also in the RED, WHITE, & BLUE trade.
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| Posted: 11 Dec 2009 12:55 |
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Favorite Cap Writers:
1. Stan Lee
2. Ed Brubaker
3. Roger Stern
Favorite Cap artists:
1. Steranko
2. Mike Zeck
3. John Byrne
My favorite Cap comics are the Steranko issues (#110,#111, #113)
That guy was so ahead of the game, the art, the panels, the covers, everything was just magic.
He took it to another level.
I so wish he had stayed on Cap for a longer period.
I also really enjoy reading the classic Stan Lee / Jack Kirby stuff from "Tales of Suspense".
Nothing too complicating, simple stories, easy to follow, and a LOT of fun!
The 80's was great also.
I really liked the Stern/Byrne issues, really great stuff!
Then came Mike Zeck who blew me away with his art..
It has been a real treat to read the Brubaker stuff that started in 2005.
Some of the best stories, EVER!
There is so much depth to the story, you never know what's going top happen.
After Steve died and Sharon found out she was pregnant, man.....
It's like I'm hooked and drawn into this awesome soap opera, LOL!
You would think that a Captain America comic WITHOUT Steve Rogers is not a good idea, but no... it really is pretty darn good!
Props goes out to Brubaker on an awesome job.
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Those that liked Roger Stern's writing, did you catch him on YOUNG ALLIES #1 this year? It was one of those Marvel 70th Anniversary Timely specials and gets my vote for the best one shot book of 2009.
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My favorite stuff is...
the run from 110 to 118 written by Stan Lee and illustrated by respectively by Steranko, John Buscema, & Gene Colan.
154-156 Written by Steve Englehart, illustrated by Sal Buscema - In these issues where are introduced to the retconned 50's Cap & Jack Monroe
I really love 350 where Red Skull makes his return in a cloned body of Steve's
and finally 1-50 of Brubaker and Epting's. Classic!!
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Here's some of my favorites:
1969 had a bunch of good ones, where he is supposedly killed by HYDRA, and his battle with the Red Skull and the Cosmic Cube, which was also where he first met the Falcon.
1972: Captain America and Bucky from the 50's return and fight Steve and Falcon. That was a good comic.
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| Posted: 29 Jan 2010 14:04 |
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I think the Lee/Kirby era will always be my fav because I started reading Cap three years ago with the Essential books and it just felt better than some. I also really enjoyed the Blood Stone Hunt, which I believe came out in the 80s. Not sure who the creators were but they did an excellent job.
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Writers:
1. Brubaker - after a couple of years mediocre stories, this was amazing. He brought back Bucky & killed Cap and made it all believable and exciting!
2. DeMatties - So under rated. Especially working with Zeck. He had a way of using a lot of classic characters in new ways, keeping Steve's relationship with Bernie going, bringing in Jack Monroe (much like Brubaker did with Bucky) and introducing Sin as a main villain. But the Orson Wells "1984" parallel (1993) was a bit weak.
3. Gruenwald - for the John Walker, not the Cap-Wolf stuff.
Stan Lee is a little hack-need, but fun. The problem is, I always hear Lee's voice in my head when I read his stuff! Kirby was great for art, but when he wrote, he was soooooo long winded.
Art:
1. Starenko - His stuff fully captured the 60s, but had such a Warhol-esque quality that it's really timeless. (Man would I love to see Starenko draw Brubaker!)
2. Zeck - This guy draws comics in a 2D comic style better than almost anyone else. Especially his covers! Cap Annual 8 - I mean WOW!!!
3. Epting - I'm a fan of the photo-realism stuff.
4. Kirby - Just the way he could draw action poses.
5. Alex Ross - Never a regular artist, but some very influential Cap drawings: Marvels, Earth X, a few Cap covers & the principle designer for the Bucky Cap costume.
6. Oh Crap I forgot John Cassady!!
*Dave Johnson's covers after Cassady on Volume 4 run.
Oh, and don't forget Rob Liefeld.....no wait that was crap.
Usually, I think, the erra you started reading is your favorite.
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I guess overall I love what Brubaker and Epting have done with the characters. I still remember when the Tales of Suspense run of the Cap & Bucky war stories appeared and I just wondered with the way Stan potrayed Bucky as a very self reliant operative why he bothered to kill him off when they revived Cap in the sixties. Iknow Lee has said many times he didn't like kid sidekicks but then he does this fabulous version of him for 8 or so issues.
In 1969 Lee & Steranko teamed up for what I felt at the time was the best of the best. I still regret this collaberation didn't have at least a five year run on Cap. The three issue that are with us were and still are comic writing and art at its best.
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JBB-Part of killing off Bucky, not just for the "No Sidekick" thing, was to give Cap some angst. This was the new thing that Stan and Jack brought to comics along with the flawed hero, that the previous decades of comics did not have. Just has Spidey felt guilt over Uncle Ben's death, now Cap had some extra weight on his shoulders. And they mined that for stories for a good 10 years.
Super Soldier-Those Dave Johnson covers were great. The Zeck/DeMattais run never gets enough respect (probably because it lives in the shadow of the Byrne/Stern run?). They seriously need to reprint those stories. Just the short Deathlok issues were collected and that was years ago.
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atomic99, Yeah I do remember when it all started in F.F. #1 they made Ben the tragic character, Peter Parker a nerd and guilty about Uncle Ben's death etc. etc. It seemed like everyone had to have the weight of the world. As you said only differently, Stan & Jack wanted their characters to have problems like real people.
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