| Posted: 30 Sep 2009 03:58 |
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I say a scene that is like this:
A handful of Allied troops are holding out at a checkpoint, waiting for reinforcements, almost out of ammo. They have vital information to get back to HQ, but their radio is damaged.
The Nazis are closing in and their only hope to keep them at bay is to blow a bridge, but they can't get close enough to set the charge.
Then, in the silence, as they watch a panzer roll closer to the bridge, the sound of a motorcycle roars and a dust-covered soldier skids to a halt in the road facing the panzer. He turns toward the soldiers, looking at them from behind his dark blue mask emblazoned with a proud 'A' and its trademark wings.
"Get ready," he says, "I'm gonna give you an opening and we'll get you out."
As the soldiers look for reinforcements, they realize he is it. He rides straight for the panzer and the tank fires over his head. He takes fire from the Nazis hiding on the other side, but their bullets bounce off his shield. He lays his bike down and pulls his .45 from his holster, firing and hitting several soldiers. A Nazi rises from the tank to use the machine gun, but he takes him out with a single bullet. Then Cap shoves a grenade into the tank's barrel and rolls clear before it explodes.
The allied forces come in behind him and join the assault. Cap falls in behind enemy lines and takes out the Nazis who begin running. He deflects more fire with is shield, then spots the sniper. He runs, drawing the sniper's fire, jumps and releases his shield right at the man, breaking the rifle and knocking him out cold.
The allied captain and his men take the field and thank Captain America for the help. Then they use an enemy radio to call in coordinates for an air strike.
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That's pretty good - I think a Holocaust liberation scene where Cap is ordered to bypass the camp, but smashes his radio to avoid not following orders. He gets in over his head but is aided by American POW's or other prisoners also held near the camp. Maybe an American reaching out to others theme.
Also, what about a recreation of the cover of Cap #1? Punching Hitler in the face is always a crowd pleaser.
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| Posted: 30 Sep 2009 05:38 |
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Maybe a scene where he rallies troops ala William Wallace!
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| Posted: 30 Sep 2009 12:14 |
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Omaha beach. saving private ryan style. done.
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| Posted: 30 Sep 2009 15:08 |
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Yeah, what Stiches said.
Also, we have to have the origin scene. Maybe the scene with Steve in the theater with the newsreels. Bucky stumbling onto the identity. And, or course, end with a victory but a sacrifice as Cap plunges to the ocean to be frozen (to be awaken in the Avengers movie).
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| Posted: 30 Sep 2009 17:47 |
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I like the idea of a caravan ambush. Maybe have it in the Winter. I could see maybe a few Panzers and nazis moving through a pass in some woods ambushed by Cap and some Army grunts. Sorta like the flashbacks in the Winter Soldier series. Awesome to see in motion.
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| Posted: 30 Sep 2009 18:10 |
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I would like to see more steve rogers in the film. The action stuff, you know that'll be there, includeing a lot of indiana jones style fights on moving objects.
But I think it would be great to see more of the man who will become Cap.
That's a long shot of course, there's so much story and so much action to tell, but I think if we can get a few scenes with Steve Rogers before operation rebirth it will make a much better film.
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To ground him in reality, Steve Roger's personal struggle has to be poignant and real. Common in the book was his struggle to support his ailing mother by selling papers. The movie should have a scene demonstrating Steve's moral values of family, justice and freedom. He must make a choice, like using money to go see a movie or buy something for his mom. Perhaps he sees the movie instead and then his mother gets worse and dies--he blames himself and has nothing left but to join the war effort despite his physical frailty.
Just an idea, but it would show him making a selfish, all-too-human choice that he later regrets and allows him to grow into the hero like Peter Parker and Tony Stark.
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Raiding an enemy base!AWESOME
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I want to see the round shield, in action, in a desperate moment as mentioned above, with the "flying" shield taking out numerous threats offensively and also protecting cap defensively.
course we don't know the time frame or shield type, so who can say.
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I'm sure they'll go with the round shield. They might start with the other one but when that ones proves to not be as effective, they'll give him the round one. I know they could save the round one for the Avengers, but I'd love to see Cap in action throwing the round shield at multiple threats.
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like the flashbacks in the Winter Soldier series
Exactly. Those scenes were very cool. Those scenes made me think they should do an Invaders movie.
Oh, and I think a scene with Master Man in WWII would be cool with Roland Kickinger playing Master Man. He's perfect for that role, right?
Here he is in case you don't know who he is:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0452199/
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I think Tim still has a fan fiction story I wrote on this site about Cap's origin. I should write some other fan fiction. Heaven knows I should do more writing. I've been rather lazy of late.
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What Scenes must be in a Cap movie:
1: Late 1939, snow covered New York City, skinny, frail Steve Rogers walks through snow to an army recruitment office (From Adventures of Captain America). Shows commitment, bravery, and a touch of foolhardiness.
2: Transformation of skinny frail Rogers to a strong healthy male. Idea that joining the army changes the person.
3: Red Skull, some vile sinister scene, or like Rogers, grew up poor on the streets of Berlin, working as a bellhop where Hitler sees him and recognizes Skull's hatred and nihistic nature. Given power and position, Skull exploited it, abused it, and would eventually destroy the world given his position.
4: Captain America charging into battle. Like Ultimate issue 1, soldiers being cut down, then Cap shows up and blows up the enemy forces. Great moment for a battle cry or a short line that can be memorable and defining for the movie.
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| Posted: 07 Oct 2009 21:25 |
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You know what really has to be in the film, the death of Bucky.
The Death of Bucky was such a central aspect to Cap for so long that I don't know how you can do the story without it.
There's a scene just after cap is awakened back in the 60's where Rick Jones comes into Cap's room wearing a Bucky costume, Cap rips off the mask. He just can't bear the idea of another sidekick dieing in battle.
I think it's great to have the Winter Soldier story line, but I do wonder if we might lose something of Cap once everythign settles now that he nolonger has Bucky's death as a burden.
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I've wondered how the movie might begin. My suggestion: while credits roll, a montage of sorts showing Dr. Erskine's research in European papers along with Hitler's rise. Then move into the movie with the Red Skull and his forces descending on a town and hunting down Erskine for his research. Maybe a US commando helps him escape to the US but dies at the Skull's hands.
Another opening might be of Cap and Bucky trying to stop the launch of a test plane, fighting Zemo's men and then go back in time just when the two get onto the plane in the air.
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The movie's time line is going to be the biggest problem I think.
You don't want what they did in the 90's with cap essentially disapearing on his first mission.
But you also don't want just a bunch of clips trying to compress five years of service into 90 minutes.
I think opening with the Death of Bucky might be a cool thing. I also think maybe telling the story from people's points of view other than Cap.
I think the set up for the Avengers movie should emphasis the mythic Cap. So maybe you don't get a clear picture of who Cap is in the Movie. Maybe the film is from the perspective of other soldiers and the nazis and their attempts to understand who and what this "captain america" really is.
in that way, telling the Cap story from Buckie's Journals is an itneresting Idea. And gives a nice shock to the audience when you get to Avengers, as this mythic character is brought into human perspective, but is still the greatest Hero.
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Interesting idea of presenting the movie from other character's pov. I doubt they'd try such a move. It would work better if it were a mini-series on TV, actually. But a movie typically makes the hero the center character.
I suspect they will compress some of Cap's victories like they did with Spider-man, a montage of him trouncing Nazis and Bundists (sp?) and newspaper headlines and interviews of people who witnessed it. That would accomplish what you're referring to, too, I think.
What I suspect is that they will get the origin story out of the way in the first 30 minutes, spend ten minutes with him as a private, bungling things w/ Sgt. Duffy getting angry, Bucky befriending him, then have him notice some activity he can prevent--Cap in a mock up costume (similar to Iron Man's prototype and Spider-man's sweat pants suit). Then they christen him with the costume and a mission. Another ten minutes revealing something sinister for the conflict. Cap gets transferred to Europe where he joins forces with the Invaders. They fight, succeed. Cap becomes a legend....but that makes it hard to freeze him at the end. I don't know. Maybe it will have to be a longer movie so they can end it with his final mission to investigate a prototype plane. It would be like an epilogue almost.
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In an interview with Katie Couric, Hugh Jackman talked about the next Wolverine movie basing it on the mini series where Wolvie travels to Japan to win the love of his life (That Frank Millar book). It was that mini series that I thought Hollywood would make. Wolvie was already introduced in the 3 Xmen movie, so they could just dive into the Japan story, plus the whole Vampire/boyfriend-liken-to-women's-fascinations-of-bad-boys trend, ... but the Powers-that-be wanted an Origin story, wanted to get Wolvie's past out of the way, or don't have that 'unknown' element of Wolvie's character in a skewed superhero date movie.
I suppose the Cap movie is going to be like that, get the origin told and create an emotional admiration and bond to the hero.
I for one prefer a mini series or an ongoing TV series, where numerous episodes can fully tell the Cap story and adventures. A movie attracts bigger attention, money, talk, etc, and have to fully tell the story and evoke excitement, entertainment and other emotional responses within 2 hours. They can also evoke that 'leave the audience wanting more' sense. So, just hope the Cap movie is good and do well in the box office.
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I think Cap will do well at the Box. It has the highest anticipation among fanboys of all the films coming out in 2011 (last I checked on Superherohype). With that anticipation and the attention to develop good movies (particularly for July) I think this will turn a profit. The Incredible Hulk overcame the disillusionment of the first Hulk movie and regained its market share (it did no worse than the first film, indicating that all those interested in the Hulk saw both films).
I think Cap will be done very well and will make money. I'm hoping it surpasses that and does what Spider-man did, get non-fans excited.
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