| Posted: 09 Jun 2009 20:07 |
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I recently saw this at Ain't It Cool News.....
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/41283
The photo was taken at a Licensing show in Vegas. As you can see it give the release dates of all the movies.
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| Posted: 10 Jun 2009 06:50 |
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Besides Captain America of course, I can't decide which one I'm more excited about, Thor or the Avengers.
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| Posted: 10 Jun 2009 18:40 |
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Awesome!
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| Posted: 12 Jun 2009 19:18 |
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It's nice, but of course I remember seeing the early release poster for Matt Salinger's Cap, and waiting with baited breath for it's arrival.
I'll like it more when I see a guy in Uniform and know what I'm getting excited about. I'll like it even more when the plot gets leaked!
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| Posted: 13 Jun 2009 10:02 |
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Did they announce at all another Hulk movie?
Will the Hulk be apart of the Avengers?
Probably not huh.
I'm still curious who the other Avengers are going to be besides Cap, Iron Man, and Thor.
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| Posted: 13 Jun 2009 13:31 |
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I'm just making a guess it'll be the Hulk from the outtake material on the Incredible Hulk dvd. They show Cap encased in ice being shaken as the Hulk struck the frozen ground in rage. Maybe this is how he winds up in the water to be found by the Avengers. I just hope it's not a big S.H.I.E.L.D. thing looking for him due to the storyline in the Hulk about the Super-Soldier serum and S.H.I.E.L.D. doing a high tech search for the original recipiant of the serum.
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| Posted: 13 Jun 2009 22:13 Last Edited By: Stars and Stripes |
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The Hulk's going to be in it. That's been confirmed. And also there's supposed to be another Avenger in this movie, and my money's on Hawkeye. Or could be Hank Pym or the Wasp.
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| Posted: 18 Jun 2009 12:37 |
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This is exciting!
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| Posted: 18 Jun 2009 17:42 |
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I figure the begining of the Avengers Movie (or perhaps the end of the Cap Movie) will be the deleted scene from the Hulk, using it as the lead in to the next film (sort of like the Fury Scene in Iron Man, or the Stark Scene in Hulk).
I heard that Ant Man and the Wasp are in the Avengers Movie, so it's possible they work them either in the Avengers Movie, or maybe they show them in the Iron Man or Thor Movie (perhaps again as teasers).
Heck if they were insect size they might have been in all the movies, and we just didn't see them. 
The most logical way to work it in, since Stark is openly Iron Man in this reality, would be for Janet to be making eyes at him (maybe she's got a thing for Capes) and Hank using his recently discovered mass alteration particle (interestingly enough they could tie this into the real world search for the higgs boson which is related to mass) to give her in hopes of winning her heart the shot at being a hero. Of course that all wind up working out poorly as they wind up on a team with Stark. Cue the wife beating scene.
You figure a Hulk scene will wind up in Thor somewhere as Loki plots Thor's Destruction. Actually, that would be a really logical place to tie all these films together with a big Thor Hulk Fight. Have they released the Villian for Thor aside from Loki? Loki's not one for the big fight scene which is necessary, so perhaps they work the Hulk in there.
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| Posted: 23 Jun 2009 18:46 |
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They did cast Loki. Some English theater actor I never heard of. That's ok though, as long as he gets the point across in his performance.
Black Widow will for sure be part of the Avengers. Scarlett Johanson (hubba hubba)is playing her in Iron Man 2.
I say they go with the following Avengers and leave it at that. Too many characters will make the movie seemed rushed:
Cap
Iron Man
Thor
Wasp
Hawkeye
Hulk
Black Widow
Giant Man
The Falcon
All of them believable in this "real world" scenario they are going with. Thor is the stretch, but curious to see how they work it out in the movie. The Falcon is a long shot, plus I think they will probably keep them to around 7 or 8 characters or less.
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| Posted: 23 Jun 2009 19:06 |
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Thor is coming out 2011??? I thought it's 2010, Iron man2 and Thor summer, leaving Spider man4 and Cap for summer 2011. 2011 will be Spidey, Thor and then Cap? For me, I can handle that, but that might oversatuate the Superhero genre for the general public. 2010, Spidey4 and IronMan2 okay. If the Cap movie is somewhat different from the usual Superhero fight-fest movie, like Saving Private Ryan was different and like all other war movies, it might stand out.
There is the powerhouse Warner, slipping in Green Lantern, Batman and Wonder Woman movies.
Not worried about Jonah Hex and Lone Ranger, Westerns, or Green Hornet satuating the market. Think there's a chance for another Superman movie?
Any other news on Non Marvel/Dc properties popping up in theatres in the next 3 years (Like Hellboy3)?
Just worried about oversatuation of this genre.
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| Posted: 23 Jun 2009 20:05 |
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After the last superman debacle, they need to do a full reboot, which will likely take atleast a couple years. They sort of la di dahed the reboot with hulk, not specificly saying the first film didn't happen, but certainly ignoring it with all their might.
As far as over saturation, for the Marvel Films specificly, (Thor, Cap, Iron man) since they are tieing them all together, they likely aren't worried. If they are smart they will try to tie one to the other progressivly in a sort of seriel style so that if you See Iron Man 2 your going to have to see Thor, which leads you into Cap and Avengers.
I'm not quite sure how Thor Fits into that mix, but they can probably make it work (using the Hulk being manipulated by Loki as the punch thrower for Thor certainly could help with that).
In that way the over saturation works in their favor. There are capes all over the place, but they've tied you in early (Iron Man 2) to their story line, so you are more likely to pic their film then the other film.
Since Spiderman is a non marvel studios film I guess it gets thrown to the wolves along with the other super flicks, but I guess they figure there's enough of a fan base built up to keep that film in the mix.
Batman is in the same spot as Spider Man, with a strong fanbase driving it, but wonder woman, Green Lantern and the others are probably in a tight spot.
If I were a studio I'd be looking for a really strong rom com about now to break the summer super hero blocade.
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Cant Wait!!
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| Posted: 10 Jul 2009 14:32 |
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Matches wrote: " Cue the wife beating scene. "
I really hope not. That is not the image we need in a hero movie, nor the image of Hank Pym as he gets his chance to be a real hero again in Mighty Avengers.
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| Posted: 10 Jul 2009 17:38 |
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Marvel universe has always been imperfect people becoming heroes.
That Iron Man movie, had some critics mentioning a weapons manufacturer becoming a hero, is that suitable? Stark was a rich, selfish Hedonist who discovered his conscious and does good. That can be applied to Pym, some problems with his behavior, issues with abuse, and he had to deal with it, which occured through the Avengers book. For Iron man 2, I want to see how they deal with Stark's drinking problem. In the comics, the creators did it for a 2 issue run, and then made it a long running problem which led to Rodney becoming Iron man.
If the Dr. Strange movie ever get made, Strange was a unlikeable doctor who became a wielder of some mystical and arcane forces, ...a doctor who our society holds with great esteem, becomes someone who in the past burned at the stake, and using magic which currently people view as evil and devil worshipping? Brings back that rebellous nature of the 60s that feuled the success of Marvel.
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| Posted: 10 Jul 2009 17:57 |
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I dunno. I don`t really approve a wife beating scene in a Marvel film, but it would be totally worth it if Cap showed up and handled things like he did in the Ultimates. That was awesome. Still don`t like the woman beating though.
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| Posted: 15 Jul 2009 19:42 |
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I hate how the Hank-Hit-Jan things seesm to NEVER go away but Tony's an alkie never gets touched on as he's "recovered" now. WTF.
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| Posted: 16 Jul 2009 03:16 |
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Well they kind of did a thing back when Tony took back the Armour from Rhodey, suggesting that the armour had effected Tony causing his alcaholism, the same flaw in the aarmour caused Rhodey to become more violent.
Tony's Red and Silver Armor was supposed to have solved the problem, but I haven't heard this mentioned since the story line originally popped up in the 80's.
As to Hank hitting Jan. It was one of those things, that sort of took on a life of it's own. I don't think the original writers intended it to become a defining moment for Hank, but wanted it to show just how desperate he had become (I believe at the time there was like Tony a suggestion that his constant manipulation of his powers (growing shrinking and altering his formulas) had effected his mind. They tried to redeem the character a bit after he gave up super heroing. But since in the 80's the idea of comics dealing with social issues was front and center, the Hank Jan dynamic became a great way to discuss the topic. As such the story got bigger and bigger, and when they did the Ultimates, well things just got really out of hand.
I always found it odd that the Ultimates were supposed to be a way to attract younger readers but dealt with subject matter way more "adult" (in the sense that debbie does dallas is an "adult" movie) material than anyone else did.
The Scarlet Witch Quicksilver thing was just crazy.
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When I was first picking up comics, Spider man was the only one comic book character that made a mistake and cost the life of loved one. (So did Cap, not saving Bucky, but that was vague and uncertain if Cap could've done something.) It's tragic, heart wrenching and vital to the drive and motivation of Spidey. Bucky's death, the sacrifice of an Asian engineer to power up Iron man's armor,...doing an ongoing comic series, eventually the creators would go into some dark places and taboo subject matters to shake things up. Usually, it start small, like a 2 issue alcohol problem for Tony and a slap from a fustrated Yellowjacket over a mistake he made in the Avengers book. If it didn't receive well, it's shut down and never explored. But usually, this stuff get explored further. Tony's alcoholism led to losing his company and Rhodes taking over IronMan and Hank's slap lead to falling out in the Av, jail time, divorce (Jan had a fling with Tony, Wow), and eventually back in the Av and replaced by a Skrull.
This keeps us reading and enjoying the book.
As for the Ultimates, it's taking this material and telling it under today's mentality and understanding of spousal-abuses and alcoholism. Is this morally or ethically proper or it's just storytelling and education. As for education, school, documentaries and books are better source and research in these matters, which allows the media to concentrate on results, behavior or effect told in their stories.
I don't think today's general audience would think Hank's personality flaws are a role model or validating wife abuse. Iron Man provided work for Roddy Downey jr who is well known for his use of illegal and legal substances, yet they saw it as part of the character he plays and the movie was his comeback and rehabilitation.
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| Posted: 02 Aug 2009 14:03 |
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this sounds awesome, i can't wait to see this movie.
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| Posted: 02 Oct 2009 05:59 |
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I haven't read the Ultimates stuff--I'm a little out of the loop of comics at 35, but what I've seen/heard makes me sad for comics. Some of the best stories I've read were written by Roger Stern and they NEVER dealt with immorality or spousal issues or someone having a "fling" with another character. These are COMIC BOOKS! Kids read them, or at least that was the idea. I see NO redeeming value to adding lurid topics to the stories. They should be about overcoming human frailty and finding honor and rising above ones fears. They are about finding nobility in the face of villainy. I'm glad the movies are being made with this in mind (at least the major ones).
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It's tragic, heart wrenching and vital to the drive and motivation of Spidey. Bucky's death, the sacrifice of an Asian engineer to power up Iron man's armor,...doing an ongoing comic series, eventually the creators would go into some dark places and taboo subject matters to shake things up. Usually, it start small, like a 2 issue alcohol problem for Tony and a slap from a fustrated Yellowjacket over a mistake he made in the Avengers book. If it didn't receive well, it's shut down and never explored.
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