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I've been trolling other message boards and they all have been suggesting actors to play Cap, they seem to mention the same actors this site keep recommending. I just thought I'll open a new topic and recommend an actor I thought would be good.
Ron Eldard.
Saw him in 2005 tv show, Blind Justice, and I thought he was very charismatic and the reason to watch this short lived series about a blind police detective. He has that everyman look, easy to find a skinny 20something actor to play Steve Rogers before the serum, but he's only 5'10. Not very tall. With some lifts in shoes, some extra padding in the Cap suit, just maybe he'll have that cool Cap physique.
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Looked him up. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0253035/
I'd have to see him act, but I guess he does have the Steve Rogers look.
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Eh. Somewhat okay.
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I will wager it will be someone you've only barely heard of, a young actor, with a lot of promise. If this film were made in the 50's it would have been Brando, but it's not, it will be whomever the next Brando will be.
Some, physically imposing but fresh faced kid, probably no more than 21 or 22.
If you want a name, go over the sit coms of late 80's and early nineties, who played the kids on those shows, are any of them good actors? If they have the physical heft for the role as well all the better.
Aside form that check out the indie scene, a guy in a strong coming of age piece out about now, especially if he plays a physical role, he's a shoe in for the role of cap.
so head out to your local film festival and look for the young man playing the high school quarterback who has to deal with his father's alchaholism and his mother's cancer, and maybe some other great imposing difficulty, and that's the man who will play cap.
The action is all CGI now, so it's back to being a good actor first and a ninja body builder second (thank goodness). Whoever gets the nod, they will be young, Cap is only eighteen or nineteen during WWII when the film is set. So expect it will be someone with a light but impressive resume.
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| Posted: 10 Jan 2009 01:29 |
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How about a list of actors you would like to see play Cap?
Jason Lewis
Jamie Bamber (Battlestar Galactica)
Given the state of publicity and info, it's hard to find someone unknown. It's better to find an actor who has done good work, but not much of his personal life has leaked out to the media.
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| Posted: 10 Jan 2009 07:51 |
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Tom Welling from Smallville maybe?
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| Posted: 11 Jan 2009 15:29 |
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Tom Welling is a good choice, though you have two problems with him. First, he may not want to play another super hero, though that's hardly a negative role any more.
More problematic is that he is under contract to Warners Right now, and my have a clause in his contract not to play another hero except in a warner feature for a period of time after Smallville wraps.
Both Peirce Bronson and Roger Moore had similar clauses in their contracts that kept them from taking on the role of James Bond until long after their television obligations were run through. Now with profitability of DVD's and other second teir income it's likely that such clauses would have an even longer life.
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http://coverawards.com/tag/jason-lewis/
I saw this on a magazine rack and I just thought Jason Lewis would look great as Captain America.
Since I haven't learned to post pictures on this site.
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| Posted: 07 Feb 2009 07:21 |
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I just looked him up. Much like the other actor that was discussed on this site before, John Barrowman, Lewis should not be cast because it would seem that Marvel is trying to make a political statement by choosing a gay actor.
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| Posted: 07 Feb 2009 12:16 |
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How about Zachery Ty Bryan, He played Brad on the long running Home Improvement TV show? He's got the looks, build, age and he's been acting forever. I think he'd be perfect for Steve/Cap!
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| Posted: 07 Feb 2009 19:52 Last Edited By: Stars and Stripes |
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Hmmmmm....I don't know, he looks alright I guess. How 'bout Ryan McPartlin, "Captain Awesome" from Chuck? He's certainly got the muscles and the looks for the part.
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Ryan's definately got the looks and credits too. I'd go for either him or Zachery Ty Bryan. Just a last note, I had to search a while to find a recent photo of Zachery. I do admit when he was on Home Improvement I'd have never guessed how he would look when he was grown up.
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Yes I was surprised by that too.
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| Posted: 09 Feb 2009 03:52 |
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Actually, I just caught Brick with Joseph Gordon Levitt, and I gotta say, he could be a good guy for the role, I can't find online how tall he is, but assuming that can be worked around, and he can bulk up, he's got the right age, and he can definatly act, and can pull off 40's style dialogue without sounding lame or corny.
Granted if he can't bulk up or is really too short for the role, there's also a possibility for him to play Bucky, which is an oft neglected question with regard to a movie.
Anyone else got thoughts on Bucky? It could be an expanded role given how promenant the character is in the books today.
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| Posted: 09 Feb 2009 06:02 |
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Well for Bucky I was thinking somebody like Shia LeBeauf, that kid from Transformers and Indiana Jones 4. Or is he too old? Should he be a teenager?
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I didn't know Lewis was gay. I just thought that billboard chest would be great for displaying that white star, thin waist so that the waist stripes won't look like a bucket and that everyman face which they can find a smaller actor with similar features to play Rogers before the serum.
Gay, no disrespect, but that might be a problem when casting a female lead, there has to be some speck of chemistry between the actors, especially when Cap is a very dominating character.
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Well one can pick up a Rock Hudson Doris Day film, and see that a good actor can make a spark even when there is none in real life.
Or you can also look at the various strait actors who have convincingly played gay men over the years. Patrick Stewart for example.
I doubt anyone would really believe Marvel was making a statement in choosing an openly gay actor to play Captain America, but people would make an issue of it any way, and that is likely enough to sink the actors shot at the role.
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| Posted: 10 Feb 2009 17:53 Last Edited By: Tim |
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I'm old fashioned. I just want an old fashioned guy to play Cap. Somebody I can believe could have lived in the 1940's. Somebody tough too.
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Quote:
I doubt anyone would really believe Marvel was making a statement in choosing an openly gay actor to play Captain America I'd be tempted to believe it.
A guy playing CA practically represents all that's good in America. To pick a gay guy is to throw a big support for gay rights initiatives while alienating conservatives. You want to make a movie that brings everybody in not just half.
I'm sure they'll be gay people working in the movie somewhere as there always is and nobody will care, but if they pick a gay actor to play CA then they are going to be starting something.
The smart move from Marvel's position is to pick somebody that doesn't have loud outspoken political or controversial views at all. Somebody that doesn't distract from Captain America the character. They'll want to keep the attention on the story and the character not create some kind of media circus event.
Now if the actors surrounding Cap are getting into trouble and making headlines that's one thing, but hopefully the CA actor won't pull a Christian Bale and get taped cussing out somebody either.
That might work for Terminator, but not a guy representing America.
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| Posted: 10 Feb 2009 18:26 |
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Maybe they should get somebody from Smallville USA.
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I have a decent one in mind. Not sure how old he is but he would do great as Cap after the serum. His name is Neil Mcdonough ( I hope I spelled that right) and he looks A LOT like Steve. Hes played in Band of Brothers which was awesome so he already has a bit of military training and knowledge from WWII. Hes little known and a great actor and looks very Steve-ish. He gets my vote.
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| Posted: 10 Feb 2009 19:08 |
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Band of Brothers was a awesome mini series. I'm not sure which one he was though.
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Certainly Cap does have a larger image than many other characters, given that he is also a symbol. No body really cares who Iron Man votes for after all.
But I think the most important thing is finding a good actor. If you could find a modern day Brando or James Dean, that would be fantastic. That they might have a political view (any political view) is really something you can't worry too much about.
In truth the politics of the role probably have a lot to do with why Cap wasn't that hot of a property until recently.
But of course, Cap is and in the movie will likely be a far more complex character than simple jingoism. The reality of the character, as the best of America, all but begs him to question the state of America.
In that sense, perhaps casting someone fairly controversial, who can prove himself as a fantastic actor, might be the perfect choice for Cap since it immedeatly bursts the negative image many people might have in their minds of Captain America and super hero stories in general.
I'm not saying they should cast a gay person, or even an active progressive, or an active conservative. But bringing the politics of the role to the foreground might go a long way to difuse the negative aspects of the politics surrounding the nations supersoldier.
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I understand your point of view, but I really think the best thing to do in my opinion is to keep the focus on the character and away from one political party or view by any means necessary. The only views I think he should be pushing is the obvious one and that is patriotism, all men are created equal, etc etc. If it was said in an American history book by a famous patriot then let Cap say it.
This movie is the beginning for Cap so they should not take chances. Just go with the basics. Stick with the basics for the sequels too, but by all means establish the character as one the American people can cheer for in first one.
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I agree with Tim about that the character is about patriotism. But I'm thinking more on the movie character.
Cap has to be handsome, eye-candy for the ladies, and a character that you can believe and follow into battle. It's that when I was a kid, watching Brady Bunch, McMillian and wife and in the 80s, Too close for comfort, I always wondered why the Brady father and Rock Hudson's McMillian were so stoic and seemed to be alienated from their female counterparts (Through I did sense a fatherly figure in Mr. Brady and a crimefighting detective in McMillian). In Too Close, JM Bullocks was such a funny foil to Ted Knight that made it fun to watch, but everytime they brought a girl for that character it didn't work. I never thought George Takaii was gay.
In Spider man, Macguire clicked with Dunst, Daredevil, Affleck and Garner (Bennifer2), Even Stephanie Powers and Robert Wagner worked great together in Hart to Hart (I see Bones going that route). Ghost Rider's female lead (Eva Langoria) wasn't much of a character, but at least there was some attraction between her and Nic Cage. There is Batman Begins, where Bale's presence practically overshadowed Katy Holmes, and even in Dark Knight with Maggie Gyllenhawl, but there was an attraction or chemistry in those actors.
I just want something to work right in this Cap movie that'll have the audience overlook some problems that might come up in believing a superhero in World War two. That Iron Monger and Iron Man fight at the end of the movie wasn't that great but the audience loved the character. Spider man 3 wasn't that great of a movie, but the Kirsten Dunst and Tobey Maguire team carried that movie. Even in Pirates of the Carribean, people loved the three main stars and overlooked all the problems of the movies.
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Mr. Brady thing really bugged me for a while, but I've managed to move past that now. Never was much of a Rock Hudson fan.
If I were hiring a part for the father of a family TV show I don't think a gay guy would be my first choice.
Back then at least that stuff was their business and not all in the tabloids. You take the symbol of liberty and make a movie it's going to be scrutinized backwards and forwards by fans and the media alike looking for symbolism and political impressions. Which is why I go right back to my point and say Marvel stay way away from politics. Make something that just says, "Gee I'm glad to be an American."
I don't care if Cap comes across as corny because he's a character that is much like Superman. He's a symbol of hope. He's a character with some great intensity as well though as any character has to be to be involved in war. Some folks might mock a super patriot, but if Marvel wants to make the really big bucks they need to get some guts and basically create Superman the movie with a different superhero and a different setting.
I always love the Smallville scenes in Superman. That always gets me. I hope they put some great scenery in Captain America like that. Go for the lump in the throat teary eyed kind of feeling. Go all out with the American flag, apple pie, Grand Canyon, fields of grain, the whole bit.
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Took the words right out of my mouth. I was at my local shop in Tacoma today talking to the owner about the exact same thing. We both agreed that Cap's the Jimminy Cricket, the voice of reason, and all that jazz. And then I said, "Marvel needs to treat this like the Chris Reeve Superman. They need that kind of classic because Cap is Marvel's Superman." Luckily, the owner Shane is a huge Cap fan and whole heartedly agreed with me.
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I hope Marvel is getting this. You know I wish DC would realize what they have in Superman. I read a while back DC wants to make future movies of all their heroes more dark because Batman made so much with the Dark Knight. Little do they understand that fans like their dark characters dark and their light characters light otherwise when the heroes of either Marvel or DC team up all they do is grimace at each other.
Like in real life some people are optimistic, some are pessimistic, and some are somewhere in between.
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Light, optimistic characters tend to be preachy, condensending, arrogant, ...can make the movie mushy. Have to convey idealism in a Cap movie. Thus the war, the overpowering Nazi armies and war machines and Cap going up against it and leading fighters to victory. That provides a visual representation, allows us to interpret it whatever we want, without bashing us with moral statements.
Dark characters do the cynical, pessimistic route can make it look drab, awful and hard to watch (Crow movies?). Yet, they make what's happening look real and possible to believe. The great Depression and Steve Rogers' upbringing in proverty striken New York and raised by a single mother, may help, like Joker's expression of his use of knives to give us an insight of his murderous ways.
Hopefully there's a balance and an entertaining feature in the visuals, motives and characters. I don't want another 90s Cap movie.
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Ok real quick here's my vision of tidbits I'd like to see. I see maybe some character backgrounds on some WWII G.Is in the movie. Just enough to show us where they are from. So we get some hopefully beautiful shots of classic America from all over the states. Some mountains, fields, farms the whole deal. Show us sons going off to war. Show us then Steve Rogers. His love of country. His sense of duty. How he feels about the Nazi threat, and then he goes off to war. Perhaps one of the soldiers we saw at the beginning befriends Rogers and gets killed on D Day as we see Cap outraged running toward the enemy.
Rogers must show us his deep commitment to freedom and the American cause. Go to the great patriots of the past to frame the kind of language and spirit he might use to convey optimism to the weary troops by his side. He could be a light in the midst of great darkness.
Just along those lines.
Then once they've established Caps reasons for fighting for and loving America then once we get to modern times we see his shock and the pessimism for the lack of love for America modern citizens show, a love for America that he has had all his life.
And like so.
I want the movie makers to work hard enough to come up with a movie that has a positive message everyone can get behind, doesn't alienate anyone, and gives the movie goer a new feeling for America they might not have experienced since the 80's.
That might go against the hollywood grain, but that's what is needed to make this picture work. Without the American optimism shown clearly in this movie it going to just be another soulless action flick. Which is great for some movies, but just not this one.
Like Superman Returns could have been so much better. No internal energy outside of the effects. Superman like Cap represent good things like optimism, faith in America, pride, patriotism. You should walk out of the movie feeling energized not beat over the head ready to dig a trench and hide like all the political rhetoric I've been hearing lately.
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