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Posted:  18 Jan 2008 05:25
Ha!  Thought I was going to forward my OWN agenda, huh?

Well...not really.  There's an issue of Captain America with a campaign badge on the cover that says "vote for Captain America, He's the people's choice."

I found it in the Trade Paperback (TP) called "War and Rememberance."  Basically, Cap decides that he can't be involved in politics because they'd be voting on popularity not on the issues.

Let's face it, if Cap said something you disagree Cap would say, you'd think he was a skrull or something right?  And if you said something that Cap didn't agree with?  You'd be labeled as unpatriotic by everyone BUT Captain America.

Freedom of expression is a gift, but let's not turn it into a weapon with Cap, Ok?

E Pluribus Unum (of many, one)
Jolly Rogers
Posted:  18 Jan 2008 16:17
Bravo, Jolly! 

Remember freedom of speech also does not mean freedom from differing comment.  You can differ with a viewpoint and passionately but not rude and disrespectfully!  Differing thoughts in the forum of ideas can enlighten all!

Estsanatlehi
Posted:  18 Jan 2008 19:46
That's why you'd be labeled as unpatriotic by everyone BUT Captain America.  (and me, because I get it...)  Just because one would disagree with me [and be wrong] doesn't make them a bad person or unpatriotic)
Posted:  18 Jan 2008 21:58
Of course not!  It goes to the passage of Mark Twain that Captain America quoted to Spiderman.  To be able to listen, and perhaps learn from all kinds of respectful discourse is a gift not all have to take advantage of.

Maybe the good Captain has been a teacher of sorts all over the years!
Estsanatlehi
Posted:  23 Jan 2008 04:52
Quote:
To be able to listen, and perhaps learn from all kinds of respectful discourse is a gift not all have to take advantage of.


Way to SAY it.  Yeah, I totally agree.  I'm all for discussing political views, sure.  But to say that Cap would agree with my views, just because I know the character well (yet not basing said view on quotable evidence) is the how the white-power spouting racists in his own magazine start to make the most trouble.

I'll give an example: 
1.  Aryan Brotherhood says that Cap supports sending the Falcon and his neighborhood to Africa.
2.  Cap goes to confront them, coincidentally at the same time that they are being fire-bombed by a reactionary group.
3.  In saving the brotherhood, his picture is taken shielding the building from a molotov cocktail and stirs up more hatred.
4.  Addressing the issue peacefully, he is attacked by enraged and ignorant people (ignorant of his reasoning.) and becomes a figurehead for a group he doesn't support and the actions he supports even less. (Was it "heroes return", "sentinel of liberty", or "Steve Rogers..." ?)

So...bravo for having such strong moral fortitude.

I'm just saying that everyone should be careful whose reputations they're putting on the line.

Quote:
Just because one would disagree with me [and be wrong] doesn't make them a bad person or unpatriotic)


Man is THAT a good quote.
Jolly Rogers
Posted:  23 Jan 2008 21:03
I'm flattered to be quoted. 

Seriously though, I hope I will always have an open enough mind to learn in the marketplace of ideas.  Blindly agree, not necessarily, but OPEN to hear what the thoughts and ideas put forward are.  It's the only way for the mind and spirit to be free.  Disagreement  (respectful disagreement) does not equal bad or unpatriotic.

Estsanatlehi