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Stunning, Nuff Said.
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Still cap is preety awesome same with spidey 3so
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| Posted: 05 May 2007 05:42 |
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I saw the midnight show. I loved it. Especially when Peter and Harry were fighting together. Venom was cool. JJJ made me laugh again. Got out of the theatre at 2:30 A.M. Got the video game at Walmart. Putzed around there for awhile. Got home at 3:30 A.M. Played the game until 6 AM. Then took the kid to school and went to work.
And my dumb ass is still up.
__________________Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.
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| Posted: 05 May 2007 09:00 |
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Thought it was excellent!
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| Posted: 05 May 2007 14:44 |
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I'm going to see it today.
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| Posted: 05 May 2007 16:35 |
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Me To i'm going to see it today!!!!!!!!!
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| Posted: 09 May 2007 03:03 |
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Cool, I saw it last night.
The movie just really made me wish a few things could have changed with the first movie:
1.) Earlier introduction of Gwen. There's some space in either the first or the second movie that would have been helpful. Maybe we'll get more Gwen in Spidey 4. She was great and for my money, STILL better than MJ.
2.) Just a quick "no!" or something out of Peter as the robber with the highlights falls backwards. Instead, he really seems fine with this guy dying for no reason. Sucks to be that guy- he didn't even kill Uncle Ben. When Aunt May says "Spider-man doesn't kill" I was sort of like "well, yeah- but he'll be totally stoked if you die and he doesn't like you."
As far as the third move though- wow. i was impressed. The fight sequences were amazing, the cheesy romance stuff was less abrasive than in the first movie. Some characters became a lot more interesting, like Harry and MJ.
I actually thought the Venom thing was done better here than I've ever seen before. There was NOTHING likable about the Brock from Ultimate Spider-Man and the original Brock was too different from Peter. he was older, muscular, seemed a little dumb, and had a flat-top mullet. Topher Grace was more of a foil- power without responsibility and it made more sense as a villain.
I do wish the black suit had been the original black suit, just because the old one looks so cool. Like a lot of "costume changes" we've seen as of late (Superman, Batman in all black)- I didn't see the dramatic difference. But this costume NEEDED to look different and instead, it was just like the first one but with the color turned off.
Ah well, the effect on Peter was fascinating- the fight between him and Harry (either, but the second was slightly better) couldn't have been cooler.
One last thing- who else thought the Sandman was a great addition? I was expecting him to just get in the way for the first 15 minutes- but his story was impressive!
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| Posted: 09 May 2007 16:46 Last Edited By: Tim |
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*****A little bit of a spoiler warning*******
I was more interested in the Sandman's story than Venom. Perhaps that has a little to do with Sam Raimi not having grown up with the Venom character and not identifying with him as much as Sandman.
Thomas Haden Church did a great job acting I thought. I liked the teamup with Harry and Spider-Man. Bruce Campbell as a French waiter was hilarious.
I think Peter's coldness over the death stemmed from his anger over his uncle's death in general. I can't remember was he infected by the symbiote yet when he found out the other guy didn't kill his uncle? At any rate the burglar was still involved in the crime that led to his uncle's death, so I can see the anger he would feel.
The only big mistake I think they made, and it doesn't affect my love for this movie is the timing that the Butler comes clean with the fact Spider-man didn't kill Harry's father. Why does he wait till after Harry has trained for combat for months, and nearly got his face blown off to suddenly reveal that bit of important info? Still it didn't really bother me. It seemed like something that would happen in a comic book so what the heck.
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Reading all your guys' thoughts, I guess I am going to seem like the villian in this post. Let me get it straight first, 1. I liked the movie, but I was a little disappointed. Maybe I was expecting something different.
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I just thought a lot of the characters in the movie where not really needed. It had to be the way they included them, because just about all the new characters seemed to be added in just 'because.' Gwen Stacey served very little purpose. All it did is make Peter and MJ question their love...AGAIN. PLEASE, PLEASE in the next one don't let the climax at the end of the movie have Spidey needing to save MJ again. Three times in a row is enough. Venom looked very cool, and while I wish there was more of him in the movie, it seemed to rushed and the whole meteor landing was VERY random. I thought the symbiote was going get to earth via John Jameson, like in the comics, if not, then what purpose did JJJ's son have in the second Spidey? Sandman was almost more random, the real killer? Seemed a tad weak to me. I think too many villians where in this one. Also, I was never really a fan of Sandman. Maybe that is why I didn't really like his huge sand monster at the end. I really liked his fight with Spidey in the armored car though. Thomas Haden Church's acting was good though. I think he's going win an oscar soon. Anyway, what I did like, and I originally thought was going to be lame, was the whole Harry/New Goblin thing. I actually thought that was probably the best parts of the movie. I think they did that so you would feel bad for Harry at the end. Either way I liked it, and I liked that him and Peter teamed up at the end. I think the movie should have been a lot more build up for Venom, and a lot more fighting scenes between him and Peter. I hope they can include him in Spidey 4 or 5.
As for the next one, I would like to see maybe Kraven as the villian, and at the end see Venom come back some how, and have that lead to a Venom, Carnage, Spidey rumble in the 5th one.
You guys did read that SONY is promising at least 3 more, right?
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I liked Bruce Campbell's part too. That was funny.
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You guys did read that SONY is promising at least 3 more, right? Awesome, I hope they keep making money. I'd like a Spider-Man movie every year.
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Me too, but they take a while to piece together, socount on one every 2-3 years at the earliest. Besides, Toby, Raimi and the like want to rest up a bit.
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| Posted: 09 May 2007 22:11 |
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Yeah- i could go for three more. I think there is a lot of steam in the venom thing- maybe they will get around to explaining why the symbiote (sp?) was soooooo randomly landing next to peter and MJ, then going right for the back of his bike as opposed to... a gopher or something.
Excellent point about MJ in trouble. It IS getting old. But ya know, she kind of deserves that for cutting Peter off in mid-sentence to check out Flash Thompson's car waaay back in 1. If only someone would finish her off... OH, sorry- did I type that out loud?
Kraven would be great in the next one. It would be a relief to see someone who wasn't connected to a "mad scientist" theme. Kraven was just a badass who lost it.
I'd like to see the venom thing linger abit like Harry did until the story is primed for a big fight.
Of course, if there's 3 movies coming, Gwen has to die somewhere. That's a drag, because I think Gwen's character has always been so cool. Plus, in this movie, they really got her character right in the few scenes in which they showed her.
We almost got to know Kurt Conners well enough to bring the Lizard in and make him interesting. We can suppose that Peter will graduate soon. perhaps the timing is finally right, unless he's on the 10 year plan.
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| Posted: 10 May 2007 00:54 |
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Did you know that their making an iron man movie
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You mean this Iron Man: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0371746/
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Spider man 3 was watchable, entertaining and fun, and in my opinion, worth the money you shelled out to watch.
The good: Peter and MJ was great, Harry Osborn and his story arc, Sandman and Venow looked great, Topher Grace really stood out, that black costume, Bruce Cambell's scene and the fight/rescue scenes.
The bad: Harry's butler, didn't need him to talk to Harry; Gwen Stacy and Captain Stacy, didn't need them, and I kept expecting them to die; that whole Sandman's the real killer/revenge/avenge motive for Spidey just felt contrived and pointless.
Other comments from critics that were interesting: That dark side works better if that hero has a dark side, such as Batman.
Now Sam Raimi is just ripping off of Superman 3 (How about that, a good movie copied from a bad movie).
Hollywood doesn't believe in Abstract heroes, have to have a revenge/avenge motives.
For me, I never expected no. 3 movies to be a hit (With exception to the James Bond movies), so I didn't expect this one to be as good as no. 2 (Doc Oct is and still the best villian in Spidey's rogue gallery). It also helps if you're a Spidey fan to get most out your enjoyment from a so-so movie outing of Marvel's flagship hero.
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I have to disagree with you just a little bit here, I don't think Superman movies jumped the shark really till Superman 4 which was just boring. Superman 3 was good up until the ending which did leave something to be desired. I loved the good Superman vs Bad, but another thing you have to keep in mind about Spider-Man 3's plot is that I don't think originally Sam Raimi even wanted to do a Venom story. He got talked into it. Plus if you do a Venom story I can't see anyway around the dark Peter thing that happened in the comics. Unless I'm just thinking about the Fox cartoon series.
If I were Raimi though, I think I would make at least one Spidey flick that focused on mostly Spidey's adventures, fighting, saving lives, defeating the villains, etc and keep the personal Peter stuff to miniumim just for one movie. I love the action sequences and dang if they don't seem to be over too quickly sometimes. Don't get me wrong I like the Parker stuff too because I do enjoy character development, but I'm more likely to watch a movie over and over and over again if it's completely non-stop action.
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**Spoiler warning a bit**
I finally got around to going to see the show with my kids. Thought it was a great "3rd" movie, but still, I like no. 2 better. I had a problem with:
1. "Harry" sort of stealing the show. The team up was a good thing at the end, but I got the feeling Spider man was the side kick at times.
2. Also with how shallow MJ seemed at times (while they were trying to make the opposite point about Peter). Her character in this one didn't seem very likeable.
3. Didn't see the need to re-invent what happened to uncle Ben after "what happened to uncle Ben" played such a crucial role in forming the hero known as Spider man in the first movie.
4. MJ being used by Harry to break Peter's heart was "thrown together" - (I mean he has her by the neck, but he was threatening Peter - so are we to believe she tells Peter she has fallen in love with someone else to save her life or Peter's)? And the immediate scarring of Harry didn't fit the time line of what was going on between Peter and MJ.
5. The climax was for a fight with all the characters, but MJ hanging from a taxi by symbiote - while the fight was being settled - and the news coverage all seemed too silly. I was a little confused by Sandman, the criminal bank robber (maybe accidentally killed Uncle Ben - but still a very active bank robber), getting forgiven by Peter and walking away - while Brock the over ambitious photographer gets killed.
BUT with all that said - as has been written before -the movie is worth the money, very entertaining, great action - and my family enjoyed the whole experience; Just not as good as No. 2 in my opinion. The train scene in No. 2 where he's lost his mask, and he is stopping that run away train, and the people realize he is so young - that is going to be hard to top for me.
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I loved that train scene but there was that one spot toward the end where you could tell it was a cgi, and I always hate it when I can tell it's cgi.
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I try not to speak ill of Sam the Man, but I thought they tried to do a bit much for one movie. Plus the language was a bit coarser. The throwing of multiple baddies into the mix kind of reminded me of the death-spiral of the Batman movies. My kids liked it, but it was a bit long for them.
But you know, at the end of the day, I waited 15 years for the first movie to come out, so not too bad.
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| Posted: 13 May 2007 10:36 Last Edited By: Danny |
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++spoiler, blah, blah++
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Now Sam Raimi is just ripping off of Superman 3 (How about that, a good movie copied from a bad movie).
Interesting point. Actually, Superman 3 KEEPS spawning good movies. Office Space copied the Richard Pryor plot!
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Also with how shallow MJ seemed at times (while they were trying to make the opposite point about Peter). Her character in this one didn't seem very likeable.
It kills me what Rami has done to MJ's character, but hey- I was always more of a Gwen fan anyway. I just can't get past how d@mn superficial, picky, whiny and hypocritical MJ is portrayed. It isn't Kirsten Dunst's fault- its the script. What does Rami think about women?! C'mon bro- stop sending hate mail to your ex-girlfriend through your movies...
Ex: MJ sprints from Peter in mid conversation when that bastard who picked a fight with him, Flash Thompson gets a car. That alone was grounds for termination.
Ex: MJ breaks things off with poor John Jameson because she has a crush on a superhero. SHE LEAVES HIM AT THE ALTER. Wouldn't you be a LITTLE suspicious if a girl showed up in your apartment with her wedding dress still on?! And what, bad enough she was GOING to go through with it but Peter wasn't even invited?!
Ex: She has seen Peter get the... you know what... beat out of him for two movies while trying to save her life while the Bugle trashed him. He tries to offer some friendly optimism, and she chides him for not being MORE concerned about her!! Yeesh, I was reliving past relationship nightmares at this point.
And ten minutes after a fight- she's at the good looking best friend's fricking MANSION, cooking, dancing and kissing! This girl may turn out to be Satan in SP4.
Summation: RUN PETER!!! DO NOT MARRY THIS INSANE WOMAN!!
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Yeah, that is ALWAYS a stupid idea, in comics or in movies. Why would such anti-social, competitive people as villains "team up" because they both hate "The Spider"? Who could have less in common than Venom and the Sandman? Now that you mention it, I do remember cringing at this point but I think SP3 may have has soooooo many suspensions of belief by that point, that I just accepted it. I mean, a teaming up between a half alien, half photojournalist and a dude made of sand... Where to begin? This is just as dumb as the Riddler and Two-Face working together.
All the same- SP3 was STILL more enjoyable than any Batman movie previous to Batman Begins.
My girlfriend brought up a good point. She said that what annoyed her is that they missed some opportunities to use suspension of belief in a clever way. She points out that, yes- we're seeing a movie about a spider man- but the reason we care about that is that his weird story is used to convey otherwise difficult or often done subjects, like heroism.
Her example as to a missed chance was that the Sandman was able to hang on to that locket. "What a great scene if we noticed he was losing all that he had of his daughter- that he couldn't hang onto it for being made of sand?! Instead, he carries it around pointlessly, even after he turns to mud. How and why would he do that? Because that was a pointless suspension of belief". Smart girl huh?
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