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Just got back from seeing the Avengers. I loved it!
Every character got their due, but Robert Downey Jr. and the Hulk got all the great jokes.
Captain America got the respect he deserved on screen. Loved one line they gave him in particular when the Black Widow said he should stay out of the Iron Man Thor encounter because it was like they were gods or something to that effect, and Cap says in a true 1940's fashion, that there is only one God, and then he proceeded to jump out of an airplane into the fight.
Plus Captain America got the leadership position in the main battle scene which I thought was great. Loved how he convinced the cops in one scene to follow his orders. You have to see it to know what I'm talking about.
I've got to say, the Hulk was done perfectly. Banner was played as a nice guy sort of soft spoken kind of dude which was a great contrast to the raging Hulk. The Hulk had attitude! I loved that about the movie.
My wife even loved the movie.
The rest of the superheroes and other summer movies are going to have their hands full competing with this one. It was just fun as all get out. Love the fighting and the interactions between the characters. There was a lot of testosterone in this movie! Heck, it made me want to take up boxing or wrestling or something. Sort of made me feel like a kid again. I mean the fight scenes just looked like they were a lot of fun, and the characters especially Iron Man and the Hulk made it look like he was having fun.
This one deserves to break a billion! I want to see it again already! __________________
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| Posted: 06 May 2012 06:19 |
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Best movie i've ever seen. Seriously.
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| Posted: 06 May 2012 15:40 |
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The Hulk stole every scene he was in. He was so good, Marvel is thinking/planning on a third Hulk movie with the Ruffalo in the role of Banner.
Cap and Thor characters held up very well in what almost was a cluttered movie, ... Tony Stark/Downey jr may need to be dialled down a bit, I was afraid he might be over-the-top, liken Evans in the Fantastic four movies, but it worked.
I was a little dissappointed that there wasn't more scenes of Captain America (Evans and Whedon talked about scenes of Cap cut from the movie), they would've slowed the pacing of this movie. Hoping those scenes would be used in Captain America 2.
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| Posted: 06 May 2012 16:27 |
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Hey Vincent, do you have the link to that? Was it video or just text?
I was wondering what scenes may have been cut from the film. What made me realize it was the Lego Sets. Captain America has a Shield motorcycle that wasn't featured in the film. All of the other lego sets were. Not to mention with a film like Avengers being so big, there would have to be a lot of extra footage.
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| Posted: 06 May 2012 17:35 |
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Just surf comicbookmovies.com, they've been posting video interviews with the stars of the movie all week. But mostly they're texts.
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| Posted: 07 May 2012 07:59 |
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film was awesome, my only complaint was how fanboyish Coulson was (he had been so capable in Ironman 2 and Thor) it kind of brought him back to where he was in the first Ironman early on, sort of a out of his element paper pusher, which I always took as ment to be kind of an act by the end of the film.
Anyway t all makes sense in context, and it was just such a perfect fil all around.
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| Posted: 07 May 2012 08:43 |
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Terrible movie!!
Worst EVER!!!
I'm kidding!!
Had you going, didn't I?
Just the perfect superhero movie with the right balance of fun & action. __________________
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| Posted: 07 May 2012 23:33 |
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Was really great to see all of those characters in the same film. Cap's first scene with Loki was great. It really kicked off the hero aspect and I loved that CAP was tough yet kept realistic for his abilities. This movie really showed how powerful Hulk is unlike the last Hulk movie he didn't showcase his strength as much.
Hawkeye was cooler than I thought he'd be, still not sold on Johanson as Widow though. She's too young looking and no accent kills it. Loki was great.
I can't believe they went there with the credits scene. Very interesting to see what comes in the sequels. They opened the flood gates with that scene.
This will break a billion, I'm sure.
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| Posted: 08 May 2012 10:55 |
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I thought ScarJo's Widow was far more interesting that in Iron Man 2 where she played it as the cold unemotional Russian. I suppose one could rationalize it and say a master spy could get rid of the accent and blend in. And she looked great and the bit where she gets her cage rattle by the Hulk added some realism to people fearing the Hulk. __________________
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| Posted: 08 May 2012 21:52 |
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Compared to other essemble movies, this is what the Avengers movie was not:
1: Transformers; lots of blowing up, things happening, cameo performances, ...cluttered, loud, and thin storyline.
2: Star Trek; 3-4 characters get all the scenes, stories, character-development and the rest of the characters get only cameo appearances.
3: Xmen movies; Cyclops dissappeared for most of the movies.
Avengers liken to these essemble movies:
1: Ocean eleven (Or those bunch of celebrities getting together for 1 movie); usually they perform some sort of heist or scheme, but the Avengers have lots of actions.
2: Lord of the Ring movies; Everybody gets their scenes, gets in on the action, but the Avengers isn't as long and drawn out.
Hopefully Avengers 2 will have a cool script and story. This one was the introduction of the heroes and characters and universe, so movie two should be introducing a cool bad guy or bad guys to mess with and destroy the Avengers.
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| Posted: 09 May 2012 04:17 |
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Awesome movie! Best Marvel movie! Cap rocked!
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| Posted: 11 May 2012 08:22 |
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I thought it was funny how Cap could stay in contact with the others even though he didn't have a com unit in his ear! You could say he had one in his hood but he didn't have it on when he was helping Iron Man fix the Helicarrier. Maybe he had an miracle ear type com device? Lol. Great movie though. Widow and Hawkeye had ear pieces.
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| Posted: 11 May 2012 11:12 |
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Yeah, I was wondering that. And how can he NOT have had his shield when he was pinned down with gunfire on the helicarrier when trying to help out Iron Man? That was very un-Cap like. But, if he did have it, one throw of the shield would have taken the guy out and the scene would not have built up in drama.
Also, why did Stark refer to Thor as a "DEMI" God? Odin is his father and Freya (not a mortal but a goddess) his mom, right? __________________
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| Posted: 11 May 2012 21:32 |
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I thought the movie was great. In what could have easily been a very cluttered film, they made it work. Everyone got thier moment to shine and I was quite happy with the result. The Hulk was hilarious and Loki made a very good bad guy. That guy is a good actor.
Cap was great too. Loved how they brought a little humor to him too. Looking forward to the deleted scenes with him trying to get in touch with people from the past.
The ending credits were awesome too.
It was very well done and Marvel and Disney are running all the way to the bank with this. Let's hope the sequel retains the heart that this one had.
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| Posted: 16 May 2012 19:24 |
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One of the articles I read on Comicbookmovie.com, Kevin Feign mentioned that Adam Warlock/Thanos/Avengers crossover waaaay back in the mid 70s. Thats the series that crossed over from Avengers annual to Spiderman annual to Thing's Marvel-two-and-one annual, which was Thanos sacrificing the Earth's sun to his lady love, Death, and also was 'the end/death' of Jim Starlin's Warlock series.
Suppose this would be the basis of Avengers2???? I don't think Marvel studios can use Spidey, but they can use the Thing (Since Century Fox dropped the FF movie rights), ...The Thing versus the Hulk, just for that, another 200 million idea.
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| Posted: 16 May 2012 21:08 |
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Fox dropped the FF rights? Are you sure? They were just talking about rebooting the FF fanchise. Right? That would be cool though.
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| Posted: 17 May 2012 02:39 |
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They'll run them in to the ground before they sell those rights back to Marvel.
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| Posted: 17 May 2012 05:45 |
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The movie was very cool! I've never been a huge hulk fan but this movie made me like the hulk. I was surprised to see that he was the comic relief. The sucker punch on thor was epic. When stark was trying to piss off banner was hilarious too. I think they did the best job they could giving all the characters their moment as well as tying all the movies in together. I really liked the Jane explanation and it was cool to see Pepper in a few scenes. I thought it sucked however that they killed off Coulson. I get that they did it to create a rallying point for the heros but i really liked that character a lot. All in all it did not let me down. Looking forward to the next one as well as Cap 2.
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| Posted: 17 May 2012 06:21 |
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I was expecting Fury to bust out the Infinity serum and save Coulson. I guess it could still happen, right (off camera in a flashback)? But this was better, I suppose. More emotion and it shows that people can die.
I too thought it was great to get Pepper/Paltrow in some scenes. It really help show that this was indeed the Iron Man movie universe merging with the other heroes' worlds.
If anyone is interested, the latest ESSENTIAL AVENGERS volume has the Thanos crossover that Vincent mentioned. I love seeing all that art in black and white.
Although I doubt they will do this one story with Thanos in an Avengers sequel. In the comics, we are getting the end (or awhile) of Warlock's story. The movie isn't going to introduce Warlock, Captain Marvel, Pip, Gamora, AND throw in the Thing and Spider-man!! That sounds like a movie recipe for a mess.
And yes, the FF and Spider-man are licensed out to Sony for movies. There IS an FF reboot on the way, much like Spider-man this summer. I'm guessing it might be one of those deals where as long as they are making the movies, they get the movie rights, but I have to think there is an expiration date in there somewhere.
I'm REALLY hoping the Thanos cameo was a tease for an upcoming Guardians of the galaxy movie, something they've teased about. But, with the tremendous success of the Avengers movie, I have to think AVENGERS 2 along with a third Iron Man movie, sequels for Cap and Thor, and a new Hulk movie are on the fast track. __________________
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| Posted: 17 May 2012 21:08 |
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If Disney and Paramount can work together, ...a couple of studios got together and help pay the bills of that overbudgeted Waterworld movie,...
I read somewhere that Marvel studios was heading up the reboot of Daredevil and FF, it may mean they're working with whatever studios own the film rights to these character, ...
But it's us, the fans and movie goers/viewers and consumers that's going to benefit.
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| Posted: 18 May 2012 01:40 |
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I don't think Marvel Studios has anything to do with the movie rights to FF, Daredevil, the X-Men, and Spider-man. They'd love to have it but those deals were made years before Disney took over.
Disney did have a deal with Paramount for distribution for their Marvel movies, something signed a few years back before Disney bought them, but, if I recall, Disney ponied up some money to Paramount to take back the rights starting with the Avengers movie. Sounds like a plan that definitely paid off.
And yes, as long as the movies are good, they'll keep making them. Or profitable. Spider-man 3 still made bank for Sony despite it being the worst of the bunch. We will see if the FF reboot goes anywhere. Daredevil wasn't nearly as bad as people remember it. X-Men: First Class showed they could reboot and make it good and the new Spider-man movie might be this summer's sleeper like First Class was last year.
But what to do about Ghost Rider and The Punisher? Nic Cage just took the fast money to make another to pay off his debts and the kabosh just got put on a potential Punisher series for TV (although a new Hulk TV show developed by Guillermo del Toro just got GREEN lit. Ha! See what I did there?? Green?)  __________________
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| Posted: 18 May 2012 09:23 |
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Maybe I'm the only guy who thinks it, but I kind of expect Thanos to be the villain in Thor, my reasoning as follows:
1) the after credits scenes in the marvel movies so far have refered to the next film in the Marvel univers series, not necessarily the next film in the heroes series (the Cosmic Cube in Thor, refers to its origin in the cap movie for example).
2) the infinity gauntlet is currently in Odin's trophy room, next to the Cosmic Cube, which as we know "opens at both ends".
3)If you go cosmic, you already have the pan dimensional asgardians as inhabiting a world across universes, so it kind of makes a better fit.
My actual hope is that the Red Skulls mind is trapped in the Tesseract and will be a subtle influence on all the movies going forward, with him forming a Masters of Evil made up of the various villains we'll see in the next films, and that will be the big bad of the 2nd avengers, the recreated Red Skul and his team of supervillains along with Hydra and AIM to lead against the Avengers and Shield.
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Interesting theory. I think it might be cool to have Thor take on Thanos.
I think I might like to see the Red Skull be the big bad guy for the next Avengers. __________________
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| Posted: 19 May 2012 23:01 Last Edited By: Pole805 |
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I didn't like it that much. One for the setting being Manhattan, perhaps the generic setting to this date since its in 90% of all action movies are set there, let alone comic book movies.
The main reason was the fact that the movie was basically Iron Man 3 accompanied by some other heroes. Downey pretty much hogged the entire story up, and the I felt that the other heroes really had no other use than just being "there".
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| Posted: 20 May 2012 16:28 |
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So, I went to see The Avengers again last night looking for more small details and I noticed that when they looked up the Dossier for where Loki was at in Germany, the person that owned the building's name was "Heinrich". Different last name, but if it was Zemo, he wouldn't go by his real name. The guy that Loki killed was not Heinrich. Thoughts?
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| Posted: 20 May 2012 17:55 |
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I bet Heinrich is a semi-popular name, not like John over here but like Mark or Luke.
Saw the Avengers again, and in the additional viewing, you get to notice a few things that you overlooked, ...that badguy they showed in the after-credit scene, ...he had a human hand, Thanos--who we suspect to be--is a mutated-super-powered-altered human from a race of humans living on Titan. Chitari-general said to him, 'to fight them, you'll be courting death', sounds like Thanos' motive to destroy Earth.
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| Posted: 20 May 2012 22:44 |
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"courting death" Ah, yes. I heard that line but didn't really pay attention to it in a Thanos sense, but that is so Thanos and that is why he smiles. I thought it was kind of silly that he smiled thinking that Earth could be a challenge but if it means that he would get death's attention, it would make him happy. I think him being the villian in Thor sounds likely and cool, and him being the baddie with the Infinity Gauntlet might be plausalbe for Avengers 2. I'm excited to see the direction our favorite heros and villains turn out in the cinematic universe. Very good time to be a comic fan. More win for us.
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Of course Heinrich is a common german name. I just thought that maybe they were opening the window for Baron Zemo.
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| Posted: 21 May 2012 08:29 |
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I'm sure the Heinrich name was just a nod. An easter egg like CAP's shield in Iron Man. Nothing in a movie is by accident, well most of the time that is, so somebody had the idea to choose that name. I don't think it's opening anything other than something for fanboys to catch. It's for the fans. Goes to show they respect us.
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I was happy that the Avengers didn't use the Cap-Avatar story-telling gimmick (It was mentioned in some articles released before the movie, ...and Avatar STG was used in the Xmen 1 movie, where Wolverine carried the audience through the story and movie).
Avengers could've been Iron man 3 (Rodney Downey jr almost stole the movie) but it was the Hulk that stole every scene. Just loved that Thor versus Hulk scenes.
With lots of things happening in this movie, all the Cap story-lines like a scene with a much older Peggy Carter or a longer scene of him 'defrosting', would've slowed down the movie. Hopefully all those Cap scenes would be in and expanded in the Captain America 2 movie.
Hey, go see Avengers again. It's still in theatres.
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