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Well if Cap isn't dead, its gonna have to be one hell of an explanation. Understood James. I'm just an old timer clinging to hope that his hero is alive.
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And why hasn't there ever been a CapN America cereal?! Damn straight! Red, White, and Blue cereal with marshmallow shields.
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| Posted: 20 Mar 2007 04:42 |
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Well, I've finally settled down. Looking at the Mighty Avengers issue 1 it appears Ultron hacked into Starks / Shields technology. How long has Ultron been in control I wonder? Is Stark dead?
Arnim Zola working with Dr. Faustus and the Skull(!). Zola clones and experiments with genetic tecnology. Why is he with the Skull's crew if all the Skull wanted was Cap dead?
James Buchanan Barnes will fill in for Rogers. Castle may battle him for the spot. Bucky will win. A character is dead for over 50 years then brought back out of cryogenics and given his memory back. A few issues later the main character, his partner, is killed off. Too much coincidence.
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I’m new here, but not new to Cap. I am probably a little older than most here (I bought tales of Suspense back when they were new. 9Cap appears in #59 and is half the book Iron Man being the other half, till #100 when it became Cap. 100). I owned avengers from #4 when Cap. Was rescued from the ice. I followed cap. Through the years.
I believe for a long time now Captain America and Superman have suffered a similar fate. They are bigger than the people who write them. Stan Lee didn’t invent Cap. And during the 70s when the country when the country was struggling so was marvel’s staff. They failed to realize that Cap. Stood for the ideal of America, not any given “administrationâ€. Personally I think they “started†killing Cap. A fairly long time ago. Cap. Would have been at the Martian Luther King Jr. Rallies, Cap. Would have stood four square against random or senseless violence. Cap would never have fallen for terrorist rhetoric as he was shown doing in a recent book, nor should the books have gotten so blatantly political. Captain America should have been allowed to raise above all that, he stood for the ideal. I’m not sure the current writers even know what that is. I think they killed Cap, because they just didn’t understand him. To let anyone else put on the mask or take the name is to me unthinkable. Unfortunately to Marvel, Captain America is only a commodity to be used to make a profit, they will use the name and the picture as they wish. Maybe they should remember what happened a few years ago when a movie company stepped on Clayton Moore and took away the Lone Ranger mask by court order and made a “great new movieâ€. It or the character hasn’t been seen since, except of course for the old Clayton moore reruns that still show up on cable.
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Captain America isn’t much of a super-hero anyway. A good bullet to the back of the neck. Sounds like a quick, easy way to go. Now, The Hulk. There’s a super hero. Whatever Captain America represents in his red, white, and blue tights is better represented with a little green rage. The Hulk rules. Anyone who would grow up idolizing the half-cracked sketches of some I.R.S. agent in tights … not sure that’s the type of hero to idolize. Whatever movie is being made for this retarded character will go right to DVD in the same way spider Man should have. Retarded. The best movie so far was the Hulk. Great Graphics. Great plot. Great character. Great comic book representation in the cinematography.
I think Batman could probably have kicked Captain America’s ass. What’re C.A.’s powers anyway? A couple retarded tricks is all he has. He’s a washed up paper boy. He’s a closet broadway singer. He’s a waste of ink. Any superhero that can be killed by a bullet is not much of a super hero. I would think it would take at least two bullets, and the caliber would have to be at least … what … say 50 mm.
America is a comic book nation, and I think what the hippies are trying to tell us is to climb out of the basement and follow real-life heroes like Jennifer Hudson and the entire American Idol crew. Those are people who stick their necks out for their dreams. They’re the real Captain Americas. And when they sing, no bullets will bring them the songs down. Because those songs are true blue! Captain America got caught his his pants down walking out of a building. He should have had some of those mirrored sun glasses on, so he could have seen the bullet coming. Then he could’ve just spun around and gripped that tiny piece of lead in his squishy fingers. TERRORIZE THIS! He would have screamed.
Instead, all he screamed was ARGH!
And that’s my point … left to his own devices, Captain America rides ridges. I mean, he’s a bottomed out par-boy of about as much value to America (today’s America) as the Oak Ridge Boys were to post-modern country music. The American Idols span a need much greater and deeper in their justified quest for the American quest for the American DREAM that whenever I think of the way Captain America died, I think that one idol … Jesse … Taylor Hicks … or even Rapheal from season one … are better off without Captain America because in addition to not knowing where the dangers lay (the bullet), he also knew nothing of the harmony of music. The harmony of music is where the super powers lie. The Hulk’s powers are deeply seated in his growl, which is a basic, metaphorical music that Captain America would have done well to learn.
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Thanks for the comments thepaladin. Kersings you do know this a Captain America site, right? BTW I do like the Hulk a lot, but that show American Idol sucks. Sorry, but I always watch the other channel. I just don't care if some sissy boys and some teeny bopper chicks get picked for their yodaling abilities. I'm not trying to pick a fight with you, honestly, is just that the show is always just been to me the sign of the end times of American intelligence. Give me 24, Jericho, Lost, Heroes, something with action. I'd like to see Simon save America from a bunch of terrorist in 24 hours or less.
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Thanks Tim, I was about to, umm, lose it with “Kersings†(interesting choice of names). I’ve been a Cap fan since about 1965. Before that I’d like most people been reading mostly DC. About this time I found Spidey, The FF, The X-men (I don’t know if you go back that far or saw those books. I had the book where “Marvel Girl†(Jean) joins the group and I remember the “lumpy Iceman drawing. I Read Sgt. Fury and his Howling Commandos, I followed DR. Strange. But once I found Cap, I had my favorite and I’ve maintained a place in my “heart†for the shield slinger ever since. (By the way there was a whole spate of DC hero vs. Marvel hero books and such a few years ago, and in two places [text and graphic] Cap went against batman and the consciences was that Cap kicked Batman’s proverbial butt every time. Cap has faced down villains of every stripe and led the avengers in battles that saved the country or the world (does anyone remember the Skrull/ Kree war?) Heck, Cap’s even met Galictis, though he was actually dealt with by the FF or his former herald the Silver Surfer. But to refer to Cap as... well let me put it this way. There are I believe two Super heros who would be said to have reached icon status, Superman is of course the first as he was the first. The other is Captain America. Around since the 1940s a quite simply bigger than the imaginations of the people who wound up trying to write his story.
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Captain America isn’t much of a super-hero anyway. Oh, of course not. He's only a master of unarmed combat, beyond peak human physical conditin and a master battlefield tactician. Not to mention brave, honest and true.
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Now, The Hulk. There’s a super hero. I like the Hulk as much as the next guy but I don't consider someone who get pissed, breaks shit and kills people in the process a 'hero'.
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Anyone who would grow up idolizing the half-cracked sketches of some I.R.S. agent in tights. Cap is far from an I.R.S. agent in tights. Know you nothing of the charachter?
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not sure that’s the type of hero to idolize But the mad, rampaging Hulk is? I grew up idolizing Cap, you have a problem with that?
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Whatever movie is being made for this retarded character will go right to DVD The new Cap movie is big-budget Hollywood.
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in the same way spider Man should have. The Spider-Man movies are the best super hero movies since the orignal Superman.
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The best movie so far was the Hulk. Great Graphics. Great plot. Great character. Are you kidding me?! That movie was a joke and a flop. What was with the end? Ang Lee is smoking some good shit.
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I think Batman could probably have kicked Captain America’s ass. No way. Batman is a highly trained human. Cap is enhanced by the super soldier serum.
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What’re C.A.’s powers anyway? A couple retarded tricks is all he has. If you have no knowledge of the charachter, why are you posting all this opinionated crap? See above post. Cap is a master of multiple fighting styles. His muscles don't fatigue. He can run a mile in a minute, is stronger than any olympic power lifter and far more agile than any olympic gymanst. That's the short list, go do some homework on the charachter.
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He’s a washed up paper boy. He’s a closet broadway singer. He’s a waste of ink. In your opinion, Einstein. I have friends who have no interest in comics or heroes who were appalled and upset Marvel killed him off. There has been mostly negative comments about killing him off.
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Any superhero that can be killed by a bullet is not much of a super hero. Didn't you just mention Batman professor? He can be killed by a bullet. Batman is human, you nimrod.
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America is a comic book nation, and I think what the hippies are trying to tell us is to climb out of the basement and follow real-life heroes like Jennifer Hudson and the entire American Idol crew. Oh dear Christ, I hope your joking. You mock Cap and praise American Idol? Are we in Bizzaro World?
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Those are people who stick their necks out for their dreams. They’re the real Captain Americas. ROTGDFLMAO!  People who are cookie-cutter, crappy pop singers are the 'Real Captain America's'? What are you smoking? That show is putting the music business further in the toilet. Cap may be fictional, but how can you compare a hero from WWII to a bunch of no-talent hacks?
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And when they sing, no bullets will bring them the songs down. Because those songs are true blue! Jesus H. Christ on a pogo stick, you are fucking mad. That show has crappy singers and crappy music. I'll be God Damned if your going come here, run down the great Captain America and his fans while you praise a shitty television show.
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Captain America got caught his his pants down walking out of a building. And if your a guy and like American Idol this much I bet your the one who always has his pants down....with another guy.
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The harmony of music is where the super powers lie. Yep, you're nuts, no doubt about it.
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The Hulk’s powers are deeply seated in his growl, which is a basic, metaphorical music that Captain America would have done well to learn. Oh yes, if only Cap could learn from the Hulk's incoherent babble: "AAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH HULK SMASH!"
Brilliant, absolutely brilliant.
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The American Idols span a need much greater and deeper in their justified quest for the American quest for the American DREAM Why? There all clone pop singers. When I go see live music at bars and see real musicians up there sweating and putting their heart and soul into their music just so they can get noticed, that's the American dream. I have seen so many talented bands that would have otherwise made it big but your stupid American Idol show is fucking ruining the music business.
Let's review. From what I get from what your saying is: Captain America bad, American Idol good. If you like the shitty show, what in the hell possessed you to come here? My wife is watching American Idol as I type this and it hurts my ears and makes me want to kill.
Do your homework on the charachter you're bashing and double-check your work before you post your opionated bullshit. Slap nuts.
Tim, I am very sorry for all the foul language.
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I'd like to see Simon save America from a bunch of terrorist in 24 hours or less. Rock on, Tim! Simon would wet his pants if he had to fight.
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| Posted: 21 Mar 2007 14:58 |
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I bet people will pay money for that free copy of the Daily Bugle you posted there since it's got Cap's death in it. From the looks of the pic I'd say you found that on Ebay.
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Yeah, they did a Daily Bugle newspaper awhile back during Civil War that was like 50 cents at comic shops. I want to get this one, and yeah i found it on ebay. Its crazy, most of the listings are for #25.
Also the Hulk movie did so good that they're already going to remake it! 
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I was on Marvel.com before and they say that the punisher will be the new Cap I really hope not that would just destroy everything I mean really
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Does anyone else agree wiht me about the Punisher being the new cap?? That's just the stupidest Idea I ever $*#^en heard of.
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I agree with you 100%.
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| Posted: 21 Mar 2007 22:39 |
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With this new seris marvel is coming out with called Fallen Son mabey at the end of it because it's only a sort seris they will find out he's not dead.
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| Posted: 21 Mar 2007 22:41 |
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What is with this Captain America movie when is it coming out???
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| Posted: 21 Mar 2007 23:47 |
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The last I heard was 2009 I think.
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I still can't believe they killed off my favorite super hero of all time. It just blows me away when I think about it.
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 I think it’s a lot like I said before, to marvel, Cap is “just a commodity†“something†to use. To many of us Cap is far more than that. Years ago I was glad to find Marvel, but in recent years I think that while it could be better, DC has treated Superman far better.
Captain America is far more to me than a “comic book character†and I have followed his story and what successive writers have done to him. I haven’t followed Superman, and am not that concerned with “him†but I do believe that he and Cap share a special place as icons. So, while Marvel owns the rights to the character and can pretty much do as they will, to me and I think a lot of others, even if they put the Red, White, and Blue on somebody else, it won’t be Cap.
And by the way, I hope they don’t play around with the character for the movie.
Sorry about that, screwed up the post once.
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What is with this Captain America movie when is it coming out??? I think in 2008.
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The negative comments about Cap were meant to piss us off. It's like the idiots that show up at a war veterans funeral and protest. Corporal America deserves a cold one for surgically gutting the Amercan Idol groupie. Good job! I will stop buying Marvel if Rogers is not brought back.
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Yeah, the negative stuff was obviously just to see how much crap could be stirred up.
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Good job Corporal!!!!!!! Way to tear into the Clay Aiken lover!!!! American Idol what a joke.....
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Re Captain America V Batman, from the rather long post by the gentleman called Kersings (interesting first post to the Cap forum, no personal info? ) ,
As a boxing ref I would score that one 115-113 unanimous to Cap, why? Whilst olds Bats is a mean machine, trained and honed to his peak of physical condition, Cap is THE peak of human physical condition, he takes the belt. imho
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Corporal America deserves a cold one for surgically gutting the Amercan Idol groupie. Good job! Thank you, captain rogers.
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Good job Corporal!!!!!!! Way to tear into the Clay Aiken lover!!!! American Idol what a joke..... Thank you, hockeyman.
Those kind of bass-ackwards, posts piss me off.
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A lot of Captain America comic book collections going up for auction recently. I intend to be buried with mine hahaha.
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Captain America is far more to me than a “comic book character†and I have followed his story and what successive writers have done to him. I haven’t followed Superman, and am not that concerned with “him†but I do believe that he and Cap share a special place as icons.
I agree, man. Cap is easily one of my main influences growing up. I grew up around the military so I am also very partial to Gi Joe. Its like alot of the values and the overall attitude of strength, courage, honesty, and integrity resonates from his character. As an adult I think that its great that I could get so much from a comic book hero.
And when people ask me why i got him tatted on my arm, I simply reply "inspiration".
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Bring Back Captain America Petition!
Blogzarro.com has started a petition to save Captain America and stop these media blitzes surrounding possibly fake superhero deaths.
Read the petition here and sign it.
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Haven't read comic books in years, but Captain America was always my favorite. I kind of drifted away from it not long after Steve got the job back from John Walker. Anyway, the news of this "death" got me remembering all the old comics I used to have in my collection. As someone else already said, a lot of these storylines have been done before. Years ago, Steve revealed his secret identity and wore the costume without the mask for awhile, so the thing with Spider Man is nothing new.
Anyway, I haven't kept up on this, so I don't even know if he is still around, but what about Hawkeye as the new Cap?
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Bring Back Captain America Petition!
Blogzarro.com has started a petition to save Captain America and stop these media blitzes surrounding possibly fake superhero deaths.
Read the petition here and sign it. I signed it and left a comment. Thanks for posting the link.
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