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I have some ideas about what the Captain America movie should be like, first the actor who plays Captain America should either be Arnold Schwarzenegger or Ben Affleck, second it should start off with his Origin (him being part of the Super Soldier project, him getting his costume and shield, him fighting in World War 2), next it should be him getting his new costume and shield, last the story should be him fighting the Nazis and Red Skull as usual.
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Arnold is a great actor, but he's a little old and that darn accent of his would sound more like a Nazi than Captain America.
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I love Arnold. He's the best....but he was not born in the US, which I think is important for playing CAP. He is also too old and yeah, the accent does not fit the character. As for Ben Affleck, huuuuhhhh....do not want to get into another Matt Damon discussion with Affleck this time, so I'll just say 'no thanks' to Affleck.
Somebody built like Arnold, that's okay, more than okay.
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I'm always getting these muscle mags that go on about Arnold's exercise techniques. You know I think the real secret to being huge like Arnold is working out till you puke every day.
I read today that a Terminator TV show is in the works that occurs right after T2 time wise. No Arnold appearances likely though.
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Yeah, it's called The Sarah Connor Chronicles. I'm trying to get on it, or in it, should I say. I don't think they've filmed the pilot yet, but I could be wrong.
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Hey maybe you could be a Terminator. That would be cool. 
If you did get on there don't forget to post what happened here. You know don't forget the little people.
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first the actor who plays Captain America should either be Arnold Schwarzenegger I am a huge Arnold fan, but Arnold is Austrian, speaks with an accent, is old now and does not look like Cap at all.
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or Ben Affleck  Enough with the Affleck/Pitts/Damons already! @#%$^ #$@%^&! These guys are wussies and need to stay far away from Cap. We need an unknown actor to play Cap, that is probably Marvel's best route. I have heard rumors that Pitt signed 3-picture contract to play Cap. If that is true, I will not be shelling out cash to see the movies. I'll watch the Cap from 1990. That's how much I can't stand these new actors. I think WHO311 posted a link for an article entitled "Dude, Wheres My Action Hero". Go read it. I'm tired of James Franco and Matthew McWhatshisname. Clint, Stallone, Chuck Norris and Arnold are old. Michael Biehn doesn't act anymore. Charles Bronson is dead. Now were stuck with wussies or Vin Diesel. 
Ben Affleck was Daredevil anyway, and a crappy one at that. He can't be Steve Rogers too. He is the primary reason, among others, that I only rented that movie 2 months ago for the first time since it's release. There were three times I wanted to turn it off.
Affleck/Damon/Pitt/McWhatshisname/Franco/Hartnett/Kutcher=sissy boy wussies
Eastwood/Stallone/Schwarzenegger/Biehn/McQueen/Bronson=square-jawed tough guys
This is not a jab at you. I apologize if it seems that way. I'm 34 yrs old and I grew up with real action heroe like the ones listed above and also got to see the re-runs of my dads action heroes (Clint Eastwood, Steve McQueen, Lee Marvin, etc.) You can't have these pretty-boys be action heroes. It just doesn't work. You can't put lipstick on a pig.
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second it should start off with his Origin (him being part of the Super Soldier project, him getting his costume and shield, him fighting in World War 2), It should definatley have this. In detail. I agree
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next it should be him getting his new costume and shield, last the story should be him fighting the Nazis and Red Skull as usual. Also agreed. Nice detailed scene about the costume ala Batman Begins. Got to have the Skull and not the Chitauri.
*&^ %^$% %^&^%$ %^&^%$&^ *&^%$# ^^%$$## *&^&^^%
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I have another idea on who should play Captain America, I think that Hayden Christensen should play Captain America, in case you don't know who he is, he played Anakin Skywalker is Star Wars episodes 2 and 3, if he dyes hair blond he'll be PERFECT for Captain America.
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I think that Hayden Christensen should play Captain America Nope. He's already Anakin Skywalker.
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in case you don't know who he is, he played Anakin Skywalker is Star Wars episodes 2 and 3 I've been a Star Wars fanatic for 29 years, no sh$t he's Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader
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if he dyes hair blond he'll be PERFECT for Captain America. Perfect?  I'm not to sure about that. He would have to hit the gym even harder than he did before he played Anakin. However, he did get in good shape and was good with the sword so he is capable. He has the height but I don't think he's imposing enough. I remember what he looked liked in the Vader suit, skinny. He didn't even come close to being 1/4 as imposing as David Prowse was in the suit. And in case you didn't know, prowse was the English bodybuilder who was inside the Vader suit for the acting scenes in Ep. 1 and 2. Sword master Bob Anderson did the fights and most of the acting in Ep. 6 because by that time Lucas and Prowse were on bad terms. The only duel Prowse did was against Alec Guiness in Ep. 4. In IMHO, no one has come close to matching the way Prowse simply stands, walks and points as Vader.
Back to Hayden being perfect for Cap. Nope. I remember mostly for his acting as the whiny, boy-band looking, tantrum throwing Anakin in Ep. 2. If Lucas had started Ep. 1 with Anakin how he was in Ep. 3, he probably would have had something. Instead, we get 'cute' Jake Lloyd who is more pissed at Padme calling him a slave than he is at being a slave. In Ep.2 we get boy-band Anakin. He did have one shining moment though, when he told Padme he killed the Sand People. Damn good scene. In Ep. 3 we finally get to see Anakin how many of us visualized him when Obi-Wan Kenobi told Luke about him back in 1977. A great pilot, cunning warrior and a good friend. He is also angry (the good kind, not the pissy Ep. 2 kind), confused, frustrated and impatient. He really pulled it off in Ep. 3. Not his fault ol' Uncle George did some crappy writing.
Don't tell me my Star Wars again.
It take more than dyed hair to become a charachter. An unknown needs to play Cap, plain and simple. Marvel could really bank and have a second franchise close to the Spider-Man films or they can shoot themselves in the foot like they did with Daredevil.
Here is the article I was talking about posted by WHO311. Please read it. Note: I have emphasized a few parts.
ASHTON, FRANCO, OTHER METROSEXUAL HEROES FAIL TO MUSCLE IN
ON GUN-TOTING GEEZERS
By SARA STEWART
September 24, 2006 -- SCENE: A freezing, stormy Bering Sea. Our hero is a brash Coast Guard cadet on a rescue mission, frantically evacuating fishermen from a sinking ship.
While the rest of the team prepares to bail, the cadet shouts earnestly that he's not leaving anyone behind. It's all very dramatic and intense, except for one thing - the gallant lead is Ashton Kutcher.
Dude, where's my action hero?
If it's a little hard to buy "That '70s" pothead as a protagonist, then you know what's it like to be a movie producer these days. When it comes to hardy, stoic leading men, Hollywood is in short supply.
Whither the Tom Cruises of yore? The Stallones, the Schwarzeneggers, the Gibsons? The Harrison Fords?
Let's see: Cruise is off the rails (not to mention Paramount's payroll), Schwarzenegger found another day job and Sly and Ford are just ... old . (Scary fact: At 64, Ford is older than Sean Connery was when he played Indiana Jones' father in the last movie).
Mel - well, we're not even going there.
Which leaves directors a crop of metrosexual swashbucklers who seem a little too pretty to save the world. When Ashton snaps to in full Coast Guard gear, you can't help but feel you're being Punk'd.
"I keep forgetting that Ashton Kutcher has an acting career," says Jon Wilde, an associate editor at Maxim magazine. "I keep thinking he's just that guy who's married to Demi Moore."
And who was Moore previously married to?
That's right, one of the biggest action stars of the '80s: Bruce "Die Hard" Willis. It must be tough to live in Bruce's shadow, but at least Kutcher's got plenty of company.
There's James Franco, whose World War I drama "Flyboys" opened Friday. It's Franco's third military movie in a row, which by all rights should be steering him toward a John Wayne career.
And yet his impact has been, shall we say, slight.
"I yelled out to see if anyone around me in my office knew who he is," Wilde says. "Only one girl did."
Another Bruce Lite is British actor Ewan McGregor, who tried his hand at action last year in the Michael Bay sci-fi thriller "The Island."
Despite his decent American accent and solid physique, McGregor never really clicked. (Perhaps all those pesky acting skills got in his way. Or the lame jumpsuit.)
The real poster boy for a new generation of action hero wannabes is another Brit: Orlando Bloom, the impossibly chiseled actor who continually pops up in roles that overestimate his machismo.
In a blockbuster like "Pirates of the Caribbean," Bloom's soft-touch romantic lead stays afloat - especially when he's the unofficial sidekick for the more deliberately fey Johnny Depp.
But when given his own vehicle, such as last year's Crusades epic "Kingdom of Heaven," the actor falls flat; his turn as the hapless Paris in "Troy" was much more his speed.
Meanwhile, savvier stars are actively demanding more complex roles than those of the all-brawn '80s variety. Tobey Maguire, as Spider-Man, and Matt Damon, as Jason Bourne, are heroic protagonists with inner conflict - possessed of the physical ability to mangle the bad guys, but a bit more tormented about the psychological repercussions of doing so.
"Hollywood seems to like the super-sensitive guys now," Wilde says. "When it comes to movies with a lead male, it's the women that are driving the sales."
"Batman Begins," starring Christian Bale, also embraced the ambiguity, to great box-office success - which rankled action purists like Maddox, the one-named author of "The Alphabet of Manliness,"which cites Chuck Norris as the epitome of what an action hero should be.
"They showed the bad guy's perspective. And they didn't make [Batman] infallible," he grumbles. "It's kind of like, he could be any guy. I want my superheroes to be above being mere men."
Like it or not, the unthinking hero is a dying breed, said the directors of the movie "Crank" recently - calling the new crop of American actors "good but soft."
Jason Statham, the star of that film, has been touted as possibly the last of the old guard; beefier than the average Hollywood A-lister, he's carved a career out of playing no-holds-barred tough guys who get the job done, get the girl, and don't mind losing a few teeth in the process. (Somehow, it's hard to picture Ashton or Orlando being cool with a less-than-perfect smile.)
But while "Crank" has fared decently at the box office, younger moviegoers prefer to get their thrills in a less contrived setting, says Wilde.
"We like the 'Jackass' guys - I think those are kind of the new heroes," he says. "Young guys are looking to real-life heroes instead of some actor with big explosions behind him."
I hate to say it, but action heroes are a dying breed. Now, if you will excuse me, I am going to watch First Blood.
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In order for someone to play Captain America they have to be a known actor, it's better to have a known actor than a someone who's an unknown actor.
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In order for someone to play Captain America they have to be a known actor, it's better to have a known actor than a someone who's an unknown actor. Is this all you can come up with? Are you familiar with Superman The Movie? Released in 1978. Director Richard Donner wanted an unknown actor to play Superman because he said an audience would not believe a known actor flying around Metropolis performing great feats of strength. Do you know who contacted the Warner Brothers wanting to play Superman? Robert Redford, Sylvester Stallone and other famous actors thought they should have the 'S' on their chest. Even Bruce Jenner was considered, the decathalon athlete with the Moe Howard haircut. Thankfully, Richard Donner was a smart enough director to get an unknown. Much to the fans benefit, he found Christopher Reeve. The living embodyment of Superman. He took the role seriously and hit the gym hard becuase he refused to wear a padded suit. David Prowse trained him. When it was all said and done, the greatest super hero movie ever, even to this day, was released. I saw Superman when I was 6 and am still choked up when Reeve flys be the camera before the end credits.
One has to be able to suspend their disbelief during a movie. Many known actors are all over the news bitching about this political cause or that political cause. Brad Pitt in particular, who is rumored to play Cap has been known, along with his former wife that dunce Jennifer Aniston, to bad mouth the president, his daughters and the country. This is fine, it's his right to do so. However, IMHO, Pitt and the other Hollywood people don't support the president for the right reasons. It's absolutely fine to disagree with the war, because war is hell and people die. I find it disgusting that simply because the Hollywood crowd wanted a democrat in office they don't support war. What this means is, support or don't support something becuase it is what you truly believe, not to further a political party who cares nothing about you or I. I am not a conservative, liberal, democrat, republican, etc. Hell, I don't even vote any more. I want what's best for the nation and people as a whole.
What does this rant have to do with Pitt playing Cap? Easy. I would not be able to suspend my disbelief because Pitt runs around pissing and moaninga about the president with his idiot wife. Then, he would have the gall to put on Cap's costume and pretend to be the ultimate patriot? Please. Cap represents the people, the nation, justice, freedom, and equality. Cap does not represent a political party. And many famous actors obviously dislike their country when a republican is an office and love it when a democrat is an office. Love your country no matter who is in office. Bush does stupid things, Clinton did stupid things. Their politicians for chrissakes. Their criminals. No matter who the president is, he deserves some respect.
Now, to get back on topic. A famous actor runs the risk of alienating your core audience. Me. The guy who has been spending his money on Cap comics and merechandise since I was a small boy. This is Cap we are talking about, this can't be screwed up. It's a sink or swim situation. Name one famous actor who has the look, would be able to train and make the charachter believable and has not put his foot in his mouth about politics or other cause.
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I sense you maybe upset a little with the Captain, but I'm thinking the Captain is a little kid that hangs out on my Supermantv.net site board. So don't let him get you too riled.
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"Dude, Wheres My Action Hero".
They wish they would have came up with a title that good.
The actual title was "Next Action Zero."
But the former would have been a lot funnier.
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I wish somebody would give Van Damme another shot at a big movie instead of just straight to video releases.
You know it would be cool to see Van Damme, Stallone, Arnold, Jackie Chan, Bruce Willis, and a couple of others in a all out action western movie. Maybe the new Magnificent 7. Now that would rock wouldn't it?
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but I'm thinking the Captain is a little kid that hangs out on my Supermantv.net site board.
You are exactly right Tim, I'm Superman from your other site.
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They wish they would have came up with a title that good.
The actual title was "Next Action Zero." I forgot the real title and for some reason this popped in my head. I probably missed the title because I was pissed.
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But the former would have been a lot funnier. Thanks.
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I sense you maybe upset a little with the Captain Not really. But after hearing the rumors about Pitt and todays lack of action heroes sort of made me snap.
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So don't let him get you too riled. Sorry 'bout that, I tend to fly off the handle once in awhile. I am just so fed up with the state of television, music and movies I can hardly stand it.
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Now that I thought about it, maybe you're right, an unknown actor should play Captain America.
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Are you familiar with Superman The Movie? Released in 1978. Director Richard Donner wanted an unknown actor to play Superman because he said an audience would not believe a known actor flying around Metropolis performing great feats of strength. Do you know who contacted the Warner Brothers wanting to play Superman? Robert Redford, Sylvester Stallone and other famous actors thought they should have the 'S' on their chest. Even Bruce Jenner was considered, the decathalon athlete with the Moe Howard haircut. Thankfully, Richard Donner was a smart enough director to get an unknown. Much to the fans benefit, he found Christopher Reeve. The living embodyment of Superman. He took the role seriously and hit the gym hard becuase he refused to wear a padded suit. David Prowse trained him. When it was all said and done, the greatest super hero movie ever, even to this day, was released. I saw Superman when I was 6 and am still choked up when Reeve flys be the camera before the end credits.
Also Al Pacino was selected to play Superman too.
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Now that I thought about it, maybe you're right, an unknown actor should play Captain America. I hope you understand the reasons why. I did not mean to browbeat you, I just think it would be best for the charachter....along with marvels pocket.
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Also Al Pacino was selected to play Superman too. Quite correct sir. There were others, I just can't remember them all.
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Well, just my 2 cents. Now that his movie has been released, what do you all think of wrestler John Cena as Cap? He has the build, can act decently, does action, and most people don't get this, but Cap was very young when he was frozen. He joined the Army at 18, and it was only a few years later when he was frozen. So he should be around 22-25 years old, or a few years older if they set it later in his career.
Then, they could have Shawn Michals as Hawkeye!
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Al Pacino as Superman, now that would have been strange I think.
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but this might have been cool. Elvis as Superman!
Elvis has jumped over the building in a single bound!
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I have seen mention of Ben Browder(Farscape/SG1)for Captain America, and I think there could be worse choices, you have a blend of being known and not in to bad shape, bit of work would help him, add that to being "obscure" enough to help alleviate any of the forementioned worries.
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what do you all think of wrestler John Cena as Cap? Dear God, No. 
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He has the build, He does. He definatley has the look for Cap. Too bad he's known as complete nimrod of a wrestlling champion.
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can act decently That's a matter of opinion.
Problem with Cena is that he's too well known.....for his crappy wrestling and the crappy characther he portrays. Cena could quite possibly be worse than Pitt. His build won't save him, the only thing I would see is an idiot in jean shorts doing his ridiculous "5 moves of doom". John Cena is the one of worst wrestlers and champions in WWF history. He turned the belt into a piece of bling bling. It's *&^%$%^& sacreligious.
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Then, they could have Shawn Michals as Hawkeye! A guy who runs around in chaps and calls himself "The Heartbreak Kid", no thanks.
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but this might have been cool. Elvis as Superman!
Elvis has jumped over the building in a single bound!
Imagine all of the fried peanut butter and banana sandwiches he could eat if he was Superman!
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Ok, so having bad writers and crappy story lines are Cena's fault? That's like blaming Reb Brown for the stupid Cap tv movie. I think with the right story and a great director, Cena would be good. Some people thought Jackman would be a poor choice for Wolverine, but he made it work with a great story and a great director.
Besides, who else? Pitt? Too old. Maybe an unknown. But has to have the build. That is one of the basics for Cap's story.
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Ok, so having bad writers and crappy story lines are Cena's fault? I suppose not, to a degree. But if memory serves, when he first showed up in the WWF he just seemed like a normal wrestler. I don't know how much pull these guys have with Vince, but doesn't anyone speak up and say: "Vince, this is really a stupid idea". Cena's fans are kids and overweight women. Pathetic.
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That's like blaming Reb Brown for the stupid Cap tv movie. Not really, Reb Brown wasn't running around the WWF making an ass of himself. Brown did not have the same kind of populartity that Cena did at the time. After Cap he did Uncommon Valor in the 80's. I don't know if he did anything else.
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I think with the right story and a great director, Cena would be good. And for the reasons I stated in my last post, I disagree with you. I think it would be downright painful to watch Cena as Cap. I just saw him having a rap contest with a fan outside an arena. It was one of the stupidest things I have ever seen.
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Some people thought Jackman would be a poor choice for Wolverine, but he made it work with a great story and a great director. Jackman was relatitvely unknown, at least I had never heard of him or seen his previous work. Jackman was great as Wolverine. Probably due to the fact that he was just Joe Actor.
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Besides, who else? Pitt? Too old. No way. Pitt would be a terrible choice. I agree here.
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Maybe an unknown. Yes! An Unknown! Now we are on the right track.
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I found something out on the episode "Viking Bikers from Hell" on Miami Vice Reb Brown played an insane biker who almost kills Don Johnson and puts Tubbs in the hospital.
Being a big vice fan I used to watch that episode over and over again. I don't think I realized who he was when I was a kid, even though the Cap Tv movie was a favorite of mine.
According to imdb.com he's supposed to appear in a new horror movie Sin-Jin Smyth. http://imdb.com/title/tt0465605/
I'll probably not watch that one if it's rated R. I hate blood and guts horror flicks.
Reb also appeared on Quincy, Fantasy Island, the Love Boat, Alice, and Bosom Buddies.
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Thanks for the info. Tim,
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Reb also appeared on Quincy, Fantasy Island, the Love Boat, Alice, and Bosom Buddies. AAAAARRRGGGHHHHHH!! The resume from hell.
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Reb Brown was also in "Cage" with Lou Ferrigno. He was a cage fighter if my memory serves me right. Lou Ferrigno and him where in Nam together and Ferrigno got shot in the head and was sort of slow minded after that so Reb Brown took care of him and the worked out together and helped train Brown for his cage fights. Then Ferrigno is kidnapped and forced to cage fight to the death. Brown kills a lot of people rescuing Ferrigno. It was pretty good for HBO in 1990 or so when I first saw it. That was the moment I first saw Reb Brown and with his blonde hair I remember thinking, he would make a perfect Captain America! I did not even know about the CAP TV movies he was in until a few years ago.
They made a Cage 2, but I never saw it. Don't know if Brown was in it, but I know Ferrigno was in it.
CAP and Hulk in the same movie, interesting?
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your right that is a qwinkie dink. Too bad Reb didn't get more of a break in his career.
Dudes nobody is payin attention to my new time rider story so I'm sneakin this in here. Read it and let me know if it sux or not. I can take it. Think of it has a free comic book.
http://superherouniverse.com/timerider/victory/part5/cover.htm
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