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Hey, I thought I posted this, but I can't find it on here. I got it from Daily Varity or Hollywood Reporter online. Either way, I thought it made a good point, and should be thought about when choosing a CAP actor.
Anyway, here's the article. Let know if I already posted it.
article: NEXT ACTION ZERO
ASHTON, FRANCO, OTHER METROSEXUAL HEROES FAIL TO MUSCLE IN
ON GUN-TOTING GEEZERS
By SARA STEWART
September 24, 2006 -- SCENE: A freezing, stormy Bering Sea. Our hero is a brash Coast Guard cadet on a rescue mission, frantically evacuating fishermen from a sinking ship.
While the rest of the team prepares to bail, the cadet shouts earnestly that he's not leaving anyone behind. It's all very dramatic and intense, except for one thing - the gallant lead is Ashton Kutcher.
Dude, where's my action hero?
If it's a little hard to buy "That '70s" pothead as a protagonist, then you know what's it like to be a movie producer these days. When it comes to hardy, stoic leading men, Hollywood is in short supply.
Whither the Tom Cruises of yore? The Stallones, the Schwarzeneggers, the Gibsons? The Harrison Fords?
Let's see: Cruise is off the rails (not to mention Paramount's payroll), Schwarzenegger found another day job and Sly and Ford are just ... old . (Scary fact: At 64, Ford is older than Sean Connery was when he played Indiana Jones' father in the last movie).
Mel - well, we're not even going there.
Which leaves directors a crop of metrosexual swashbucklers who seem a little too pretty to save the world. When Ashton snaps to in full Coast Guard gear, you can't help but feel you're being Punk'd.
"I keep forgetting that Ashton Kutcher has an acting career," says Jon Wilde, an associate editor at Maxim magazine. "I keep thinking he's just that guy who's married to Demi Moore."
And who was Moore previously married to?
That's right, one of the biggest action stars of the '80s: Bruce "Die Hard" Willis. It must be tough to live in Bruce's shadow, but at least Kutcher's got plenty of company.
There's James Franco, whose World War I drama "Flyboys" opened Friday. It's Franco's third military movie in a row, which by all rights should be steering him toward a John Wayne career.
And yet his impact has been, shall we say, slight.
"I yelled out to see if anyone around me in my office knew who he is," Wilde says. "Only one girl did."
Another Bruce Lite is British actor Ewan McGregor, who tried his hand at action last year in the Michael Bay sci-fi thriller "The Island."
Despite his decent American accent and solid physique, McGregor never really clicked. (Perhaps all those pesky acting skills got in his way. Or the lame jumpsuit.)
The real poster boy for a new generation of action hero wannabes is another Brit: Orlando Bloom, the impossibly chiseled actor who continually pops up in roles that overestimate his machismo.
In a blockbuster like "Pirates of the Caribbean," Bloom's soft-touch romantic lead stays afloat - especially when he's the unofficial sidekick for the more deliberately fey Johnny Depp.
But when given his own vehicle, such as last year's Crusades epic "Kingdom of Heaven," the actor falls flat; his turn as the hapless Paris in "Troy" was much more his speed.
Meanwhile, savvier stars are actively demanding more complex roles than those of the all-brawn '80s variety. Tobey Maguire, as Spider-Man, and Matt Damon, as Jason Bourne, are heroic protagonists with inner conflict - possessed of the physical ability to mangle the bad guys, but a bit more tormented about the psychological repercussions of doing so.
"Hollywood seems to like the super-sensitive guys now," Wilde says. "When it comes to movies with a lead male, it's the women that are driving the sales."
"Batman Begins," starring Christian Bale, also embraced the ambiguity, to great box-office success - which rankled action purists like Maddox, the one-named author of "The Alphabet of Manliness,"which cites Chuck Norris as the epitome of what an action hero should be.
"They showed the bad guy's perspective. And they didn't make [Batman] infallible," he grumbles. "It's kind of like, he could be any guy. I want my superheroes to be above being mere men."
Like it or not, the unthinking hero is a dying breed, said the directors of the movie "Crank" recently - calling the new crop of American actors "good but soft."
Jason Statham, the star of that film, has been touted as possibly the last of the old guard; beefier than the average Hollywood A-lister, he's carved a career out of playing no-holds-barred tough guys who get the job done, get the girl, and don't mind losing a few teeth in the process. (Somehow, it's hard to picture Ashton or Orlando being cool with a less-than-perfect smile.)
But while "Crank" has fared decently at the box office, younger moviegoers prefer to get their thrills in a less contrived setting, says Wilde.
"We like the 'Jackass' guys - I think those are kind of the new heroes," he says. "Young guys are looking to real-life heroes instead of some actor with big explosions behind him."
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That article rules! That's exactly what I'm talking about. All the tough guys actors are old. Now were stuck with wussies.
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Interesting points and I agree the modern action hero doesn't quite live up to the old days like Arnold, Sylvester, Clint Eastwood, and old John Wayne, but at least there's that Statham guy from Transporter like the article says. There are some actors good at acting tough like Wolverine Hugh Jackman. You know when he's not doing ballet or something crazy like that.
We won't get another Clint Eastwood or John Wayne though unless Hollywood looks to some average Joes who may have had to actually work for a living sometime in their lives other than on a Broadway stage.
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That's what I'm talking about. I actually sent that article too Ari Arad, Avi Arad's son on myspace. Did not get a reply, but I it said the letter was read, or at least opened.
Hey, I'm as average Joe as you can get. That's my point too. That is why I saved it.
I worked some 'real-ish' jobs in the past. I mowed lawns with my brother when I was like 10-13, then I played sports in junior high and some in high school, and worked as a bagger at a grocery store in High School, where I earned money to by my own car and insurance. Got promoted to produce when I turned 18, then I joined the Marines the next month (Produce manager was pissed!).
While in the Marines I went to boot camp 13 weeks, Infantry school 8 weeks (not encluding a month of 4 hours on, 8 hours off guard duty for a month before training picked up, only had one day off in that month!), then went to Security Forces school in Virginia for 6 weeks, then got stationed in Washington State for next 2 years guarding 'stratigic' assets, but could not start working that until I did another month of class training. Then after six months in WA, went back to same VA base to go through 6 weeks of high intensity SWAT training, then when i got back to WA, had to work as SWAT member AND normal Guard duty, for remaining year and a half. Then got stationed in Bahrain, where I did base security, taught guard school for new Marines, was ALWAYS the range CQB (SWAT), Pistol and saftey NCO when we'd train at the firing range. Worked as Corporal of the Guard, Sergeant of the Guard, and finally as the officer of the day or called the Watch Commander as a 21 year old Sergeant who'd only been in about 3 and a half years. Then, when my platoon commander and platoon Sergeant left at the same time, I had to not only spin up the new plt commander and plt sgt, but I had to supervise ALL the weapons and ammo, ALL the new Marines we got from the Manai Plaza shuting down, all the records that went with that. Thinking back, that was probably the most stressed I have ever been.
Then I got out and did nothing except work as a bouncer on thurs, Fri and Sat night for about 9 months, then joined JC football team and started practice in late spring, dropped thurs nights, and started school that fall. Quit football because I did not have time to study. Had to take remedial math and english classes at JC since I did not take SAT's and was not in school for 5 years. Took 15 units (5 classes) each semester for all four years, working EVERY fri and sat as bouncer, took summer classes every summer, and took class between fall and spring semester every year for 3 years (month long class offered called intersession course, where you take the same unit level class with same work load, but only 1 month long. Very fast paced and long hours.) Had girlfriend after a year in school (like taking another job! Still with her). Ended up graduating in 4 years, did internship at movie production company last summer after I graduated, then started my acting stuff, that I have been up today. Not longer work as bouncer. Did that for almost 5 years. Had enough.
So, I may never really had a 9 to 5, but I am an average joe. Oh yeah, I lift weights and do cardio when not working.
I am not crying about it at all, or complaining that I been busy since I was 13 or so, but just making my claim that I worked and was not a theathre person. Personally, Theather is not for me, and I never took theather classes. Got my BA in TV and Film production after transfering to State University after Junior College.
One more thing, WH0311 for CAP!!
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Good luck dude, you got the background for an action hero. Hollywood is a tough town I've always heard. I think it's a matter of who you know and how many auditions you do.
I watched this show the other day and it showed a actor get a part 3 years after an audition for a completely different part because the director or the producer remembered them.
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worked as a bagger at a grocery store in High School, where I earned money to by my own car and insurance. Got promoted to produce when I turned 18, then I joined the Marines the next month (Produce manager was pissed!). Whoa! I did the same thing! I never made it to produce though. The store manager was pissed when I went to boot camp because I did all the heavy lifting. Small world.
Sounds like you've got the backround for Cap too. Good luck out in Hollywood, I hope all the scary stories are not true.
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I actually sent that article too Ari Arad, Avi Arad's son on myspace. Good thinkin'. I hope they listen to you.
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One more thing, WH0311 for CAP!! And CorporalAmerica as a squad leader in Caps platoon. Tell the director I'll do it for free.
Maybe I could play Bucky/Winter Soldier. 
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Thanks, guys! Maybe should send the Marvel execs a link to this web-site.....AGAIN!!
I was about to say, Corporal America, when reading a few of your posts, "he sounds like a Jarhead?"
I didn't get a Semper Fi, so I'm guessing Army then?
I just got off working with 2 squared away former Army dogs. Funny how when you are in, you all talk Sh@! about each other, then when you meet up in the civilian world you're like long lost brothers....who talk sh@! about each other!
Thanks for the kind words. I'm trying to do my part here, that's for sure, but I appreciate the support.
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Nope, USMC. 1991-1995
One post I did give you a Semper Fi. I just forgot which one it was.
While stationed at Camp Foster, Okinawa, my buddy lynch shows up at the barracks with the Cap movie from 1991. First time I saw it. He was a huge superhero/sci-fan and the best friend I had in the Corps.
So, Semper Fi. 
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It seems the cycle is gonna end or start again.
In the past we had Steve Reeves who opened the door to muscles in Hollywood, even it happened the same as ever, he was going to be Samson but this horror producers have toward muscles made the roll went to Victor Mature. I´m sure the late Steve should have done a wonderfull Samson.He ended in Italy as Hercules and still remains as the perfect male specimen for many people.
Then the dark again, no muscles in Hollywood.
Stallone showed a very muscular boxer and people started again to see muscles in films, then appeared Conan and with Arnold the door got opened again for bodybuilders in the movies.
Now the action stars of the 80´ are getting old even if they still look better than some new actors.
There is new faces who could do it well and rise again muscles up life The Rock, other action heroes as Jason Statham and i bet for the new action heroe THE MARINE, i like the way John Cena does his job.
Hugh Jackman is also a very good one, we´ll see very good things from this one.
SEMPER FIDELIS.
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Thing about Jackman is that he only beefs up for Wolverine, and he is skinny as hell when he is not playing Wolverine. He is a good actor, but I would not consider him a bodybuilder. Again, he looks good with his shirt off, but when you see him in the trademark Logan jacket (the leather one with the yellow stripes) he just looks like a tall thin guy. He could use more size, but then again he has already proved to do well with who he is, so that one is already established. We have to make sure CAP is established as a big guy right off the bat, so that we can have only big muscular actors playing him.
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I think we've all made the point here, it's going to have to be an unknown. he needs first to be able to act, most guys can beef up, and above all that he'll need a good script that doesn't belittle or insult Cap.
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They should get a retired Navy Seal to play Cap. Hell, the guys from Socom are all retired, but they do fine on camera and with the voice acting for the games.
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As long as we're going there, you could consider Ranger or DELTA also (my background is army). Whoever it is, I just hope they do Cap proud.
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They should get a retired Navy Seal to play Cap
I don't disagree with you here, but retired usually means a bit older, at least mid to late thirties. Of course, I'm talking about actual retirees who retired after 20 years in.
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| Posted: 12 Jun 2007 00:13 |
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| Posted: 12 Jun 2007 06:18 |
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He means it would be better to use a SEAL who hasn't put a full 20 years in the Navy.
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| Posted: 12 Jun 2007 15:46 |
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ooohh!
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How about "the not usually bulked up, but did you see American History X" Ed Nortin?
He's a pretty good actor, heck you didn't even get to see his face in Kingdom of Heaven, and he still did a pretty good job. (an under rated movie in my book)
Maybe he can gruff up his voice a bit... I imagin Caps voice a bit gruff, being a hard core military kinda guy.
Or, dare I say it, DiCaprio... did you see the Departed? He can be a bad a$$.
Though I will admit they still leave a bit lacking.
We'll have to go find an unknowen to make it good. It's pretty much like everyone's been saying, where have the Clint Eastwoods gone?
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| Posted: 13 Jun 2007 14:42 |
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I would say there has to be 2 caps. 1 the skinny one, 2 the strong one.
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No Dicrapio. Please, thank you very much.
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| Posted: 14 Jun 2007 19:50 |
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haha lol
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| Posted: 14 Jun 2007 19:52 |
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| Posted: 14 Jun 2007 19:59 Last Edited By: Pole805 |
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yeah, crack me up!
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| Posted: 15 Jun 2007 01:35 |
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Ok.
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN, PLEASE DON'T HIRE ANY NANCY-BOYS TO PLAY CAP!
THAT IS ALL.
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| Posted: 15 Jun 2007 16:04 |
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dude you are hitting the... exuse me, hahahahahahahahahaha!!!, continuuing the spot!!!!
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