| Posted: 04 Jun 2010 02:50 |
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man, that's a good point guys. there was nothing saying that what were lookin at isn't the modern outfit. hmmm..
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| Posted: 04 Jun 2010 02:54 |
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I like the cap costume, but I do wish they would paint on the wings. I know the phsyical wings would be too much, but the stencil wings would be a great shout out to the fans, and would look proper in the 1940's context.
The Thor pics...not so much...I think it's the hammer, the lightning just looks weird, but otherwise, what the heck.
I think Thor wise, I would have prefered a more traditional look like the Thor from the Incredible Hulk TV Movie. I mean Thor doesn't wear a uniform, those are just clothes to Asguardians, so taking him out of the uniform isn't that big of a deal.
Anyway, just glad the uniform isn't too bad. It's actually pretty good, but come guys...add the wings.
Five bucks say the wings show up by the time they shoot if people complain enough.
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| Posted: 04 Jun 2010 04:38 Last Edited By: Pole805 |
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Why do you guys hate Cap Writers design? Am I the only one here, besides Cap Writer that likes it?
Get over it fellas, it is what it is and Cap Writers design is awesome. ^_^
The costume is okay, it's better then nut-crushing tights. I guess it's just me and you Cap Writer...
Anyway arguing over the Internet is pointless, it's my opinion...
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| Posted: 04 Jun 2010 05:14 |
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Pole805...you have to remember something, Cap has got the shaft on many occasions when it comes to TV and movies. I think some people just want it to be true to the origin in both story and costume, even though the origin has been done over and over again.
A little change is tolerable but too much, and it starts to look alien.
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| Posted: 04 Jun 2010 05:54 |
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I didn't draw that other design. I just found it on the Web somewhere. What I've seen in the last two days, the actual production photos from Marvel are WAY BETTER than that thing I posted a while back.
Anyway, it sounds like we have a good mix of opinions now and I'm not the only one that loves this new look.
And as I said earlier, I really think this will be one of three looks for Cap: classic, WWII Ultimate, and modern. Why not? Iron Man had classic, all gold, then red/gold, then triangle with silver, then war machine came into it. It's all good.
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| Posted: 04 Jun 2010 07:55 |
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Just paint the wings on the helmet. I kinda dig the red straps, though i think they could get away with the stripes. I'd just like to see it.
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| Posted: 04 Jun 2010 14:25 |
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Pole, you got your opinion on that drawing....we got ours. Maybe you should get over it? You are entitled to liking it just as the rest of us are entitled to thinking it's ridiculous.
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| Posted: 04 Jun 2010 15:00 |
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| Posted: 04 Jun 2010 15:01 |
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I think it's ok, but I want the wings back. I hope the suspenders is just something temporary due to jumping out of a plane. Personally, I'd go exactly with the original. Might be harder to pull off, but Cap is an iconic character, and iconic characters should have the real deal costume like good old Superman's costume. Imagine putting suspenders on Superman.
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| Posted: 04 Jun 2010 16:45 Last Edited By: Andyjunction |
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I'd been assuming we'd see three different costumes as well. Classic, WWII and modern. But then I realized I had no legitimate reason to believe that would be the case.
Early reports said Cap would head out to fight in his classic costume initially but then change it to the more utilitarian version that they described with straps replacing the abdominal stripes. That sounds like exactly what we're looking at here.
Either way, I agree with those who say this design looks a little too futuristic for the '40s. It looks futuristic for the year 2010. Maybe they could develop some futuristic tech and materials for his costume in the '40s but designing a futuristic look that would still look futuristic 70 years later just doesn't seem right to me.
Having said that, I do like the version we see here quite a lot. Just add those wings!
edit: Maybe there will be a time travelling fashion designer worked into the script?
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| Posted: 04 Jun 2010 19:00 |
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Have to say that I am just assuming that this version is for Avengers or end of Cap movie.... definitely too modern for WWII.
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| Posted: 04 Jun 2010 20:15 |
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I don't think its that modern. Its probably not the suit he'll wear for The Avengers. I think this is the costume he will be wearing for the most part of the Captain America movie. In The Avengers, we might see him in his classic uniform.
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| Posted: 05 Jun 2010 04:41 |
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Well as far as that futuristic look, bear in mind that this is concept art. If you guys have seen the concept art for the Thor costume it has the same rubbery futuristic look to it in the pictures but someone from the film responded and said that on set and film it looked way more like cloth and metal. So I think that the actual Cap suit will have the same idea of were everything is and looks like but be made out of natural material.
And I like the costume. Of course my dream would be to change absolutely notta from the original Kirby design! But of course I knew that they would not use that for the movie version(except the USO bit). So this one keeps enough of the classic to keep me happy. But maybe I'm just getting better at settling after settling for Chris Evans. :P
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| Posted: 05 Jun 2010 21:00 |
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At first glance i like the new concept. but i agree the helmet has to go. it looks like the war dept shipped his helmet to the wrong front and he stole one off a dead Nazi and repainted the black helmet to blue. the suspenders work for me as far as being part of the support system for the should armor and web belt but once that comes off the red strips must be on the shirt/chest armor. as far as the red briefs go i'm not much for then in the comic and don't feel they translate well at all into real life. i do want the wings and i don't care if they have a use like maybe antenna for in helmet radio or just looks they need to be there and yes with the use of 2 maybe 3 brain cells you can figure out a way to make then look good.
As for the shield if it looks as good as the one on tony starks work bench in Iron man 1 then it will look sweet. but the original shield was v shaped so i wonder if that will be worked into the movie?
oh and if you don't know about the shield its on the bench in the seen where pepper sees tony removing the suit and says to her lets face it you have caught me doing worst (its on the bench right before the seen cut to pepper walking down the stairs)
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| Posted: 05 Jun 2010 21:11 Last Edited By: Cap Writer |
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Look dudes, the star is on the chest, the A is on his mask/helmet and the shield is absolutely perfect - it is not the triangle shield, it is not a forcefield shield. This is Cap. Period. No one would ever mistake this uniform as anything but Cap.
The wings had to go. The red buccaneer boots and gauntlets had to go. The tight pants had to go.
Does this look a bit to futuristic for WWII, yes I agree, but as a previous poster mentioned, it may look more natural and more period once we actually see it on screen and not as a CGI drawing.
I'm not concerned in the least bit about the costuming. What I am concerned about is TOO MANY costumed heroes jammed into what is supposed to be Cap's movie. I'm cool with Red Skull and Bucky. I know Nick Fury has to be in the book ends. But do we really need Arnim Zola, Dum Dum Dugan and a whole host of Invaders? I say no. A love interest for Cap is OK, but we don't need Zola, Master Man and a whole super team distracting from the Red Skull and Cap.
This movie should be a gut-wrenching, emotional tale about the life and times of Steve Rogers. I've always imagined his movie to be full angst and pathos. Now I fear that it will become a CGI-fest.
If I could just have two wishes, they would be: practical locations and sets as opposed to CGI, and less characters and more main character driven.
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| Posted: 06 Jun 2010 11:48 |
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It does look a bit "busy" but I think I can live with it on the big screen.
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| Posted: 09 Jun 2010 06:28 |
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Ultimate Cap is the best Cap:
Dudes, that kick-ass uniform is going to help sell Chris Evans as Cap SO much. Don't worry too much. Evans was very good in "Street Kings" opposite the bad-cop Keanu Reaves. Evans played the white knight good-cop and sold it well. He was gritty and serious, not all lame like he usually is in romantic comedies. I didn't care for him too much in "The Losers," but I think it was the character and the glasses he wore.
The rest of the cast and the action set pieces will help him along. I just hope that in the character driven scenes and close ups, that we can feel his angst - both as a 90-LB weakling inside an adonis body and as the spirit of Steve Rogers inside of a symbolic uniform that puts the weight of an entire nation on his shoulders.
'Nuff said.
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| Posted: 09 Jun 2010 16:04 |
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Before the comments, I'll disclose that I've done my own concepts for a Cap movie costume. To begin, the Cap design from the Kirby sketches is one of the most respected superhero outfits over the years, and not one to be derided as mere long-johns with headwings and pirate boots.
It's a good design and very good artwork, but frankly, they haven't been brave enough, and have retreated to the more realistic comfort of the Ultimates universe than mainstream continuity.
Why change a good thing? There were no changes to the Superman costume when it first appeared on screen, and minimal changes to Superman, Spiderman, Batman, the Flash and Fantastic Four costumes, so there's no real reason why it shouldn't work for Cap. Many praise the lack of comic-accurate costumes from the X-Men movies, and suggest Cap should be like that, but the lack of costumes (and the replacements) were one of the negative aspects of the X-Men movies. Besides, we didn't cringe or laugh when Superman flew or even stood still in his costume, or when Spiderman swung across New York in his iconic tights. There's no reason why Cap's Kirby uniform should be off limits for live-action.
While the soldier look seems a good reason to use this costume instead of the classic, let's not forget, Cap is far more than a soldier. He's called the World's Greatest Athlete, for a reason. He's also highly skilled in martial arts and close combat. For those roles, the classic costume is just right. While it may seem inappropriate for WWII (though several comic panels over the years suggest otherwise), it's just the kind of costume for something as (seemingly) over-the-top as the Avengers.
If they want to go in with this design, they can call the movie (Marvel Presents) Ultimate Captain America, as that's a very different character. Ultimate Cap was more of a soldier, and a very rough-edged hero, and (possibly) not averse to using firearms, and not one whom you'd have interacting with civilians too often, unlike mainstream Cap. While the movie may do well otherwise, let's just hope we see the costume we grew up with, in a forthcoming film or a parallel film or TV adaptation.
To sum it up, while this concept looks good and hard to find fault with, the Cap costume can be taken from the comics without looking silly, and is worth it.
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| Posted: 09 Jun 2010 21:41 |
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Well said, Arjun. I couldn't have put it better myself.
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| Posted: 11 Jun 2010 03:32 |
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I'm sorry I always admire soldiers, you just get that feeling that you know? I go with what my gut says, just like some of you go with your gut on the classical....I better be right......
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we didn't cringe or laugh when Superman flew or even stood still in his costume, or when Spiderman swung across New York in his iconic tights. There's no reason why Cap's Kirby uniform should be off limits for live-action.
That's actually a really good point. Though, the only argument I could make is that maybe they were afraid that Cap's classic outfit would not pair up well with the likes of Iron Man & The rest of the Avengers on the big screen.
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| Posted: 12 Jun 2010 17:58 |
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Yes. The big screen. That is what we are talking about here: a MOVIE. It has to work as a movie, not as a comic book. The newest Superman made updates to the classic Christopher Reaves Superman, they had to! They went with darker, richer colors, no S on the cape, no screen printed logo on the chest and so on. It was still Superman, just more modern. Same with Batman's suit, more modern, more military application, as opposed to the campy Adam West Batman from TV in the 1960s.
You will all get over it, I promise.
No one will care about those silly wings on the helmet once we see Chris Evans in uniform yelling "Avengers Assemble" in front of Robert Downey Jr, Chris Hemsworth, Jeremy Renner and Ed Norton. Trust me.
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| Posted: 12 Jun 2010 19:49 Last Edited By: Stars and Stripes |
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Cap Writer, I think I speak for a lot of us when I say that a lot of us will miss those "silly wings" on the big screen. With all the other changes to his costume, including the red stripes, the tights, the shoulder pads, and the helmet, I might could overlook them if they would just fix the wings on his mask.
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| Posted: 13 Jun 2010 20:19 |
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I still believe that the happy medium is painting the wings on the sides of his helmet. Fans get what they want and its doesn't really change the aesthetics of the helmet design.
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| Posted: 30 Jun 2010 06:43 |
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i do think it would be a little more time period appropriate tho if they put spats over those boots.
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